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Just to be really clear are you saying the following is no longer the case?

"Can stand and then move using an aid or appliance more than 20 metres but no more than 50
metres. 10 points"(from Benefits and Work"


This is what I have said and this is what I believe to be my true ability, I have said that I am in some pain all the time I have completed the form and it has gone to The Director of Services at the mental health charity I volunteer for, for him to make a statement about how my condition affects my life and to post it for me.

Its done now,

They pretty much only pay attention to the 20m bit. One of the reasons they paid the mobility component without quibble in my case was that it was obvious that I couldn't move even 20 metres without aids, and without stopping.

Thing is, you should get the mobility component on the above criteria, but they're likely to try buzzing you off with "but you can walk 20m, therefore...", forcing you to ask for a Mandatory Reconsideration. Or - who knows - your decision-maker may be one of the minority of decent ones.
 
Well pissed off atm. I was due to be transferred from contributory rate ESA to income related in November. However since submitting the form back then I have'nt heard a thing from them. Situation is complicated because as a full time student they have to take my grants/loans into account. I phoned them back in February and was told it was all still being processed. Was too busy with coursework/ exam revision to follow it up, but now that is all out of the way I rang them yesturday to check what the situation was. They rang back to tell me that due to an overload of work at their office they send all my paperwork to another office to process, however that office has lost it all and I will be required to fill out and submit the orginal form I sent them in November complete with evidence so they can start processing my claim all over again.
Not only that but my medical to review my claim is due this Monday in Balham at 9am. I wanted to take two of my friends with me as I feel both of them would be able to provide the interviewer with various different insights into my condition, but I have been told I can only bring one other person into the interview room with me. Not looking forward to this at all...
 
Well pissed off atm. I was due to be transferred from contributory rate ESA to income related in November. However since submitting the form back then I have'nt heard a thing from them. Situation is complicated because as a full time student they have to take my grants/loans into account. I phoned them back in February and was told it was all still being processed. Was too busy with coursework/ exam revision to follow it up, but now that is all out of the way I rang them yesturday to check what the situation was. They rang back to tell me that due to an overload of work at their office they send all my paperwork to another office to process, however that office has lost it all and I will be required to fill out and submit the orginal form I sent them in November complete with evidence so they can start processing my claim all over again.
Not only that but my medical to review my claim is due this Monday in Balham at 9am. I wanted to take two of my friends with me as I feel both of them would be able to provide the interviewer with various different insights into my condition, but I have been told I can only bring one other person into the interview room with me. Not looking forward to this at all...
Could you get both of them to write a short statement that you could give to the assessor?

Also, bit cheeky of them to ask for the documentation again when they've lost it. Doesn't inspire confidence.
 
Could you get both of them to write a short statement that you could give to the assessor?

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yes that is what I did in the end. I took one of my friends in with me and got the other one to write something. It was a bit chaotic at the start, there was someone else in the waiting room with the same surname, they called him in got halfway through his interview before realising they were talking to the wrong person so they send him back out and called us in. My mate did most of the talking, I spend most of the interview seated behind the back of her computer screen, cowering in terror:D
Dunno what the outcome will be, she spend a long time asking me about my bi polar diagnosis and my medication. Could tell she was trying to catch me out at times, like when I was asked about food and replied that sometimes I skip meals and have coffee instead she seemed to be making a thing about the fact I can make hot drinks..
She was typing quite a lot throughout the interview and I think she was taking us seriously. At the beginning of the interview she said I may have to do some physical tests but at the end she said she had enough information and would skip all that and told me to go home. not to worry and relax.
Just have to wait for the result now I suppose...
 
No bet! My scorings using the self-assessment test were similar, and I was awarded 9 for care (currently undergoing "Mandatory Reconsideration"), and 12 for mobility.

So, "Mandatory Reconsideration" result arrived last week, and didn't reference any of the points I made about why I considered the original award incorrect, and maintained the original award. Next step: Read up on the appeal process, and then appeal.
 
So, "Mandatory Reconsideration" result arrived last week, and didn't reference any of the points I made about why I considered the original award incorrect, and maintained the original award. Next step: Read up on the appeal process, and then appeal.

Sorry to hear that VP. :(
 
Sorry to hear that VP. :(

It'snot too bad, as the original award was "only" £30 a week less, so we're not under too much financial pressure, yet.
The annoyance is that they pretty much state that because I wasn't incoherent or having problems communicating during the assessment, that I can't have communications problems, even though I've made it clear in my application, during my assessment and in my request for "reconsideration" that I can handle 1-on-1 fine if it's conducted somewhere quiet and I have the opportunity to lip-read the person talking to me. If it isn't like that, or involves lots of extraneous noise, I'm fucked, as all the noise sources bleed together (google "one-sided deafness, head-shadow effect" for a decent explanation) and I'm unable to separate them, even with total concentration on lip-reading. Factor in my short-term memory problems as well, and I either don't hear or understand stuff, or I forget it. :(
 
I got my ESA50 the end of April. I've bunged it on the shelf. Every time I look at it I go into a blind panic. I know I'll have to deal with it soon. It's due back by 30th May. Fucking hell....
:(:(:(
 
I got my ESA50 the end of April. I've bunged it on the shelf. Every time I look at it I go into a blind panic. I know I'll have to deal with it soon. It's due back by 30th May. Fucking hell....
:(:(:(
Okay, first thing, go and brew up. Then sit down and drink it. Seriously.

Then start with just filling in your name, DOB, NI, and address - the easy stuff first. Then another cuppa or short break to relax.

Then come back to it. Don't try to do it all in one go, short bursts are far more bearable.

You can do this. PM VP etc if need be.
 
Okay, first thing, go and brew up. Then sit down and drink it. Seriously.

Then start with just filling in your name, DOB, NI, and address - the easy stuff first. Then another cuppa or short break to relax.

Then come back to it. Don't try to do it all in one go, short bursts are far more bearable.

You can do this. PM VP etc if need be.
Cheers. I will do that. Slowly slowly catchy money. Shit. Why do they have to do this to us.
 
Cheers. I will do that. Slowly slowly catchy money. Shit. Why do they have to do this to us.

Because *they're uncaring wankers who are only interested in "cutting the welfare bill".

*Party politicians.

P.S. As Greebo says, feel free to PM me. Disability/long-term sickness benefits forms are seriously draining, and a bit of help can make the difference.
 
Cheers. I will do that. Slowly slowly catchy money. Shit. Why do they have to do this to us.
Good sound advice from Greebo. Its too much for most people to do in one sitting - even if you don't find it daunting or utterly panic inducing.

Pleased do look at it as soon as you can - because if you need help or need someone to do it for you the sooner you ask for that help the better. Do you have a friend / family member / someone supportive who can take a look at with you?

So at least have a read of it, if only to decide - do I need help from a charity/advice organisation to fill this in, do you need to book an appointment somewhere for that help?

Deep breath. Hope you are ok.
 
It'snot too bad, as the original award was "only" £30 a week less, so we're not under too much financial pressure, yet.
The annoyance is that they pretty much state that because I wasn't incoherent or having problems communicating during the assessment, that I can't have communications problems, even though I've made it clear in my application, during my assessment and in my request for "reconsideration" that I can handle 1-on-1 fine if it's conducted somewhere quiet and I have the opportunity to lip-read the person talking to me. If it isn't like that, or involves lots of extraneous noise, I'm fucked, as all the noise sources bleed together (google "one-sided deafness, head-shadow effect" for a decent explanation) and I'm unable to separate them, even with total concentration on lip-reading. Factor in my short-term memory problems as well, and I either don't hear or understand stuff, or I forget it. :(
Bastards. Chats, even very serious ones, in a quiet room are not the same as the real world. Bah! I hope the mandatory reconsideration works out.
 
Is there an up-to-date list of how many points you need / get for stuff somewhere?

Finally got an ESA50 through after they sent the first one, along with most of my post for the last few months, to an address from years ago that's not even in the right country. Only found out about it when I got a reminder text for a medical assessment booked in Edinburgh the next day - I'm down in Sussex... :facepalm:
 
where abouts in sussex ? iona i keep eveything and i remember keeping the one i got its really weird you get points for walking out the room
and coming back in ie your ok if you can sit in a room for 45 mins etc
 
where abouts in sussex ? iona

Anywhere from Brighton to up in Kent - I'm nfa right now but my mother's letting me have post sent to her address. Filling the form in isn't a huge problem, I've done them before. It would just make it a lot easier knowing that stuff is all.
 
Hello, I was hoping for some advice.
My partner was on ESA support group for 3 years, and had a medical last month. We received the news that he had failed his medical and got 9/15 points. We are in process of pulling together information to begin the mandatory reconsideration and have an appointment with citizens advice on Thursday to complete it and send it off.
My partners disabilities include high intercranial pressure, agoraphibia, anxiety and depression. He is on medication that causes numb hands and feet and he still gets headaches and blurry vision, he also has lumbar punctures (4 per year).
We have requested a report from the GP to outline all of my partners ills and symptoms, he is also able to receive a letter from his Counceller for added evidence.
I was hoping for some advice of success stories of mandatory considerations and if anyone believes we have a good chance of being placed back into the benefits group we were previously?
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you in advance.
 
Hello, I was hoping for some advice.
My partner was on ESA support group for 3 years, and had a medical last month. We received the news that he had failed his medical and got 9/15 points. We are in process of pulling together information to begin the mandatory reconsideration and have an appointment with citizens advice on Thursday to complete it and send it off. <snip>
Welcome to urban, and sorry to hear of your (and your partner's) trouble with the benefits system.

1) It's not dependant on symptoms or diagnoses, it's dependant on how it limits what that person can do.
2) If your partner has had no improvement since the last claim (or has got worse) there's a good chance of getting the same level of benefits as before, as long as it's worded correctly.

If you can spare £15 or so, I recommend subscribing to the Benefits And Work site to get their downloads (on how to word stuff to improve your chances without lying).
 
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I had my PIP assessment today, one of the things they asked me to do was to fold a piece of paper!?! I did ask what my ability to fold one piece of paper proved? 4 - 8 weeks wait now to see how cured I am :(
 
I had my PIP assessment today, one of the things they asked me to do was to fold a piece of paper!?! I did ask what my ability to fold one piece of paper proved? 4 - 8 weeks wait now to see how cured I am :(
It will be something bizarre that if you have the dexterity to fold a piece of paper then you can type at 150 wpm or operate high powered machine tools.
 
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