Athens Greece: Cops murder a 16 year old
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Teacher Dude mentioned some kind of occupation in Thessaloniki yesterday - it was a little drowned out by the G20 noise in London, though. Do you have any details on this?
Also, the GiaNt blog has some kind of 'hacked by Greek nationalists' thing on the front page yesterday, can you give any info on this, cheers!
Best wishes to Dimitris and Stella and all the Greek comrades
About the Giant post : It says about some kind of demonstration against Israeli citizens organized by KOE (Communist Organization of Greece) maybe in some football match between Greece and Israel where KOE together with fascists (according to the post) showed -I guess- what kind of idiots they are , I'm sorry I don't know anything about it, I've been off the net for some time, maybe Dimitris will know
About the Teacher's post, there was an occupation-I think I posted about this- but I believe it is over now. The blog for it (in Greek but there are photos):http://www.ergolabies.blogspot.com/ and in English from this site:http://clandestinenglish.wordpress....tors-office-against-subletting-slave-traders/
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Thanks Stella
Stay strong!
Stay strong!
Dimitris
Well-Known Member
About an occupation in Thessaloniki... Sorry but the only one that I am aware of is the one of 20th of March, at the Labour Center of Thessaloniki, in solidarity to Konstantina Kuneba, the worker and syndicalist who was attacked with acid on December.
Apart from this
There was an another solidarity gathering outside the women prisons at Eleonas in Thiva, on Sunday. As I described a few days ago, the women immprisoned there started an uprising during our previous gathering, as a responce to the death (murder?) of Katerina Goulioni, while she was transfered to an another prison. We were rather more this time, went to a point that you can see the prison from there and started chanting. The women inside responded to the chants, shouting the same, and there was this kind of "communication" for some time. RIOT police was also there, waiting for us, but nothing really happened.
Some photos can be seen here:
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1014313
(I hope you can see them, I personally cannot as they don't fully upload on to my slow pc)
Apart from this
There was an another solidarity gathering outside the women prisons at Eleonas in Thiva, on Sunday. As I described a few days ago, the women immprisoned there started an uprising during our previous gathering, as a responce to the death (murder?) of Katerina Goulioni, while she was transfered to an another prison. We were rather more this time, went to a point that you can see the prison from there and started chanting. The women inside responded to the chants, shouting the same, and there was this kind of "communication" for some time. RIOT police was also there, waiting for us, but nothing really happened.
Some photos can be seen here:
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1014313
(I hope you can see them, I personally cannot as they don't fully upload on to my slow pc)
after the attempt to pass a law "against hooded demonstrators" some Greeks had different ideas about the whole concept...
Photos from a demo in Thesio with fully covered faces
(creativity in action)
http://a-gnosti-kallitexnes.blogspot.com/2009/04/blog-post_6979.html
http://a-gnosti-kallitexnes.blogspot.com/2009/04/blog-post_6558.html
http://a-gnosti-kallitexnes.blogspot.com/
Photos from a demo in Thesio with fully covered faces
(creativity in action)
http://a-gnosti-kallitexnes.blogspot.com/2009/04/blog-post_6979.html
http://a-gnosti-kallitexnes.blogspot.com/2009/04/blog-post_6558.html
http://a-gnosti-kallitexnes.blogspot.com/
Last Saturday there was an assembly at Koridallos (at Eleutherias-Freedom- Square) and a demo in solidarity to the prosecuted of the uprising in Koridallos and outside the prison. More than 700 people with banners and shouting slogans reached the prison where there was mutual exchange of slogans with the detained. This comes only a few weeks after the suspicious death of Katerina Gkoulioni during her transfer to the prison in Crete and the emotion was evident.
Photos:
http://athens.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/metafiles/cam000254_2_.jpg
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1017877
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1017618
53 are still detained and hundreds are still prosecuted under the "anti-terrorism" law
The assembly and demo were called by
-the open assembly of those in revolt in solidarity to the prosecuted of the uprising
-the assembly of those in revolt from Salamina, Perama, Keratsini, Drapetsona, Nikaia, Aigaleo
-Anarchists (A/A) in and out of unis
-Anarchists Collective
-The Occupation of Patission 61 & Skaramanga
Photos:
http://athens.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/metafiles/cam000254_2_.jpg
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1017877
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1017618
53 are still detained and hundreds are still prosecuted under the "anti-terrorism" law
The assembly and demo were called by
-the open assembly of those in revolt in solidarity to the prosecuted of the uprising
-the assembly of those in revolt from Salamina, Perama, Keratsini, Drapetsona, Nikaia, Aigaleo
-Anarchists (A/A) in and out of unis
-Anarchists Collective
-The Occupation of Patission 61 & Skaramanga
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
i have to say that i'm impressed with your collective stamina.
Another incident of police brutality in Greece
from : http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1018953
"Αnother victim of the murderous Police operations at the western ports of Greece
On the 3rd of April at Igoumenitsa port the Coast Guard men injured fatally a Kurdish immigrant from Iraq. The eyewitnesses who are “sans papiers”immigrants described “commandos in blue and military camouflage uniforms. The policemen requested by the immigrants to leave the port area. They did so, but returned some time later to find a way to be transported to Italy, which was their goal. They waited there, but the police returned as well, and they arrested Arivan Abdullah Osman, a 29 year old Kurdish Iraqi. They banged his head on the cement at the port and inflicted him an internal hemorrhage.
He was transferred to local medical centers, and finally at the Thessaloniki Papanikolaou Hospital, where he underwent a surgical operation at his head.
Unfortunately, mechanical support is still necessary for his vital organs to function. According to the doctors he has no chance to recover and will either die, or will go into vegetative state, should anyone concerned allowed for his disconnection from the support machinery."
from : http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1018953
"Αnother victim of the murderous Police operations at the western ports of Greece
On the 3rd of April at Igoumenitsa port the Coast Guard men injured fatally a Kurdish immigrant from Iraq. The eyewitnesses who are “sans papiers”immigrants described “commandos in blue and military camouflage uniforms. The policemen requested by the immigrants to leave the port area. They did so, but returned some time later to find a way to be transported to Italy, which was their goal. They waited there, but the police returned as well, and they arrested Arivan Abdullah Osman, a 29 year old Kurdish Iraqi. They banged his head on the cement at the port and inflicted him an internal hemorrhage.
He was transferred to local medical centers, and finally at the Thessaloniki Papanikolaou Hospital, where he underwent a surgical operation at his head.
Unfortunately, mechanical support is still necessary for his vital organs to function. According to the doctors he has no chance to recover and will either die, or will go into vegetative state, should anyone concerned allowed for his disconnection from the support machinery."
Dimitris
Well-Known Member
The Occupation of Patission 61 & Skaramanga, as well as other anarchist collectives, are calling for an another demo tomorrow, against the introduction of a new repressive law, that targets occupations as well. What happened on 17th November 1974, with the dictatorship ordering a tank to attack the occupied Athens Polytechnic, is now becoming legal, as the police will be allowed to break student building occupations, in asylum protected areas (like the universities are).
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
How good was it as far as the people joining the demo Dimitri? I am away from Greece and wasn't able to be there, and what about the fascist police state's responce towards the demonstrators this time, are you OK? any chemicals etc?(Haven't check Indymedia yet)
shut up
keep on keeping on Dimitris n Stella
I'm "keeping on" in spirit at the moment ddraig
wish I was there in the streets.. insteadWhy don't you stick with your Xmas tree style posts... they're so much LESS BORING
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Thanks for the updates.
Eye on.
Eye on.
from athens indymedia's posts : more than 3000 people at a demo that was more than 5klm long, many slogans and strong emotions,I read about 2 arrests and detained at the Kipseli police station, but Dimitris will post soon -I'm sure- with more accurate informatiom from real life experience. Similar demos and actions in other cities in Greece (Thessaloniki, Volos, Ioannina, Kozani)
Photos : http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1023238
NOTHING IS OVER
THE FASCIST POLICE STATE WILL COLLAPSE AS IT DESERVES
WE ARE JUST IN THE BEGINNING
NO ONE WILL TAKE OUR FREEDOM AND RIGHTS AWAY FROM US (GAINED BY TOO MANY PEOPLE LOSING THEIR LIVES FOR THEM)
NOTHING IS OVER
Photos : http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1023238
NOTHING IS OVER
THE FASCIST POLICE STATE WILL COLLAPSE AS IT DESERVES
WE ARE JUST IN THE BEGINNING
NO ONE WILL TAKE OUR FREEDOM AND RIGHTS AWAY FROM US (GAINED BY TOO MANY PEOPLE LOSING THEIR LIVES FOR THEM)
NOTHING IS OVER
Concert in solidarity to Konstantina Kuneva
Concert in solidarity to Konstantina, the money will go towards the recovery of her health, at the Stadiun of Peace and Friendship(Stadio Irinis kai Filias) organised by the feminist initiative in solidarity to Konstantina Kuneva, Wednesday 29th of April , 20.30pm
They offered to sing:
Nena Venetsanou, Kalliopi Vetta, Giannis Ioannou, Savina Giannatou, Sotiria Leonardou, Martha Mavroidi, Lamia Bedioui, Danai Panagiotopoulou, Natassa Papadopoulou-Javela, Katrin the Thrill, "Rodina" women's group from Bulgaria.
- Women's accounts who work in the same field as Konstantina will read Ioli Vrihea
-Will attend and speak represantative from PEKOP (Konstantina's Union)
All proceeds will be put in Konstantina's bank account
Concert in solidarity to Konstantina, the money will go towards the recovery of her health, at the Stadiun of Peace and Friendship(Stadio Irinis kai Filias) organised by the feminist initiative in solidarity to Konstantina Kuneva, Wednesday 29th of April , 20.30pm
They offered to sing:
Nena Venetsanou, Kalliopi Vetta, Giannis Ioannou, Savina Giannatou, Sotiria Leonardou, Martha Mavroidi, Lamia Bedioui, Danai Panagiotopoulou, Natassa Papadopoulou-Javela, Katrin the Thrill, "Rodina" women's group from Bulgaria.
- Women's accounts who work in the same field as Konstantina will read Ioli Vrihea
-Will attend and speak represantative from PEKOP (Konstantina's Union)
All proceeds will be put in Konstantina's bank account
Are people still following this? It sounds mental to be honest.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/10/greece-riots-protests
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/10/greece-riots-protests
Some are but of course it's all pretty dead at the moment.
The left/anarchist types are still trying to spout their anti police and state shit while the far right are still attacking immigrants.
What the lefty types fail to do is offer a news that doesn't suit their cause. That means they didn't mention the right wing attack on illegals in the old court building as they would have had to describe how the police defended the illegals against the fascists and how the police became 'pig in the middle' when the far left and right wanted to battle it out a short while later.
Like all the best propaganda machines, they never actually mention anything they can't put a spin on.
I'm sure that some of the cops are fascists but I'll bet most are just pissed off at a bunch of cunts trying to destroy their country.
Photos from the police and fascists working together
Images speak LOUDER than words
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1027246
from the fascist assembly on the 9th of May
Images speak LOUDER than words
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1027246
from the fascist assembly on the 9th of May
Did you read the bit I quoted? Like 'A general strike shut down schools, hospitals, flight and public services across Greece today'. I mean that sounds like pretty big news to me, no? 'The country shut down' and 'Greece's links to the rest of the world cut'? Surely beyond the means of a few pissed of student anarchos to organise I would have thought.
Are you saying that the Guardian is misreporting it, or that even if this is the case it doesn't really matter?
I did read it but it makes no odds really. Sod all will change and it will only hurt the country's already ailing tourist trade as well as foreign investment.
If this lot do win out they will just create another dictatorship that will bring misery to all except the few.
The country has gained a democracy that is far from perfect but it's far better than what will happen if these cunts get their way.
Sorry to be anti but it's doomed to end up crap whatever way you slice it.
Political violence almost always does and does every time fucking extremists of the left or right get hold of a country.
Unless you can give me an example of a country where it's worked against an elected government and not ended up as a dictatorship where the people are seriously oppressed and murdered in large numbers for not thinking right.
What I'm mainly interested in at the moment is why there isn’t more coverage of this in the mass-media. I have a sneaking suspicion that at a time when the status of politicians is at an all-time low here, news of general strikes, parliament surrounded etc in a country not that far away are not what the political class want on the telly.
How much do you know about the history of Greece? The British basically sold-out a lot of their Greek allies from the time of Nazi occupation, leading to the death or exile of a great many of them (because they were too leftist). Then the CIA supported a coup that overthrew a centre-right government in favour of a military junta, and democracy was only re-established there in 1975. There have been ongoing problems with police violence, stitch-ups and growing public dissatisfaction with their government for a while though, so it was always likely that these were going to boil over in some way.
Are these the kind of ‘cunts’ that you’re talking about? Why are they cunts?
How much do you know about the history of Greece? The British basically sold-out a lot of their Greek allies from the time of Nazi occupation, leading to the death or exile of a great many of them (because they were too leftist). Then the CIA supported a coup that overthrew a centre-right government in favour of a military junta, and democracy was only re-established there in 1975. There have been ongoing problems with police violence, stitch-ups and growing public dissatisfaction with their government for a while though, so it was always likely that these were going to boil over in some way.
Are these the kind of ‘cunts’ that you’re talking about? Why are they cunts?
People capable of political violence when they have a vote that will be counted are always cunts.
If the counting is rigged then fair comment but if not they should set their stall out, sort out candidates and fight in elections.
I'm aware anarchists don't believe in elections but that's only because their minority bollocks would never get then a seat in any fucker's lawmaking body.
If these people believe they have popular support let them prove it in an election.
Of course they won't as they would lose and they know it.
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
You seem to have missed the point somewhat!
I knew a hell of a lot of miners that were on strike. They didn't want to be but were pressured sometimes with threats of violence.
A strike does not mean all the people on strike agree with it or the aims behind it.
The point seems to be that the left want to sling out the elected government.
What else?
Didn't that happen in the UK with a miner's strike once?
Do unions have the right to impose their minority opinions on the whole population?
Ok, go for early elections but I know if they lose they will be back on the streets as soon as they can find an excuse in another attempt to impose their truth on the whole country.
There has to be a critical mass of people who want to strike for a strike to happen. once that's the case then the rest have to back them up - it's called solidarity and is the cornerstone of working-class power.
People have a right to demostrate, a right to free assembly. Violence is also not a monolithic category - Walter Benjamin draws a distinction between the covert violence of the state and the sovereign violence of the proletarian general strike. But that's probably beside the point.
I'm not sure you understand anarchism properly. The point is not that they want to have anarchist rulers, or think that if people could choose their rulers freely then they would choose anarchists to rule them, but rather that we should as much as possible dispense with the division between rulers and ruled, in the name of freedom and plurality.
People have a right to demostrate, a right to free assembly. Violence is also not a monolithic category - Walter Benjamin draws a distinction between the covert violence of the state and the sovereign violence of the proletarian general strike. But that's probably beside the point.
I'm not sure you understand anarchism properly. The point is not that they want to have anarchist rulers, or think that if people could choose their rulers freely then they would choose anarchists to rule them, but rather that we should as much as possible dispense with the division between rulers and ruled, in the name of freedom and plurality.
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