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dogmatique
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Wouldn't you be quicker queuing at one of the many AT&T stores?
Doesn't have quite the same cachet though, does it?
Doesn't have quite the same cachet though, does it?
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Plenty of non gadget freak/techy people I know have asked about it, the look and interface is a real pull by the look of it...I'm beginning to think that Apple has a real success on its hands with it.
cybershot
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The novelty factor will wear off. There's already plenty of windows phones that do similair sort of things but don't look as pretty.
As long as i can text and call people and it has a decent camera (which the iphone doesn't) I couldn't give a toss what else it can do. Sony Ericsson all the way.
As long as i can text and call people and it has a decent camera (which the iphone doesn't) I couldn't give a toss what else it can do. Sony Ericsson all the way.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
editor said:
I've never heard of any UK network demanding a 24 month contract yet, 18 month sure but 24? That'd be a first afaik...
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
editor said:
Oh right but I talking about the UK with Chio...
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Not sure why this is interesting but the user manual is online: http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/iPhone_User_Guide.pdf
pseudonarcissus
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Kid_Eternity said:
it's typical here, then they give you a big discount to upgrade the phone.
I'm tempted to drive past my local AT&T just to see how much of a zoo it is
from my Treo I'd wait a bit until they are selling unlocked versions from the Apple store...
untethered
For industry & decency
editor said:
Apple are completely customer-hostile when it comes to things like that.
Apparently, the rationale is that they don't have to spoil the purity of the design by including a customer-accessible battery compartment. I'd say that if they can't manage it adequately, they're pretty poor designers.
Being able to swap batteries is a serious requirement.
untethered
For industry & decency
On which note (without digressing too far), the battery cover on my 2000-vintage Fujifilm MX-1700 camera is aluminium, whereas the one on my new top-of-the-range Canon Powershot G7 is plastic. Even worse there, as the SD card is in the same compartment.
Yes, it's all metal, apart from the vulnerable moving parts.
Yes, it's all metal, apart from the vulnerable moving parts.
editor
hiraethified
You're wrong.jæd said:
Removing an iPhone battery is a very fiddly business and there's no way on earth I'd attempt it myself if I was on the road. Not only would I fuck up my warranty, but there's a good chance I could fuck up the entire phone - and that's assuming I've remembered to bring along the mini toolkit needed for the job.
And then there's the tricky deal of finding a replacement battery in the first place.
Dismantling an iPhone:
http://stream.ifixit.com/
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hiraethified
If you're signing up for a two year contract, you should expect a bloody good deal!Pie 1 said:
There's no way I'd sign up for such a long deal: I tend to trash my phones after a year or so and I'd imagine the potential for braking something as complex as an iPhone would be higher than most.
Plus who wants to be stuck with an old phone?
Re: Batteries
Thing is, it seems to use an iPod dock connector and as such I reckon there is a chance you'll be able to use third party battery packs to extend battery life when posting on urban from Pilton using an iPhone.
Re: Applications
Word here is that a developer SDK IS in development, just not yet complete.
Re: Exchange
Allegedly, Apple will reveal something on support for Exchange in the coming weeks.
What's critical is that this device can be upgraded by software updates, as it runs a version of OS X. As such, it's well worth identifying what is lacking, and making a racket - of you look at what Apple have quietly been doing recently, you'll see they have been quietly addressing these concerns.
At the end of the day, I think Apple's foray into this market will be really good for mobile phone users, as other companies will attempt to meet user needs for usable interfaces and accessible applications.
Everyone should benefit, hopefully
Thing is, it seems to use an iPod dock connector and as such I reckon there is a chance you'll be able to use third party battery packs to extend battery life when posting on urban from Pilton using an iPhone.
Re: Applications
Word here is that a developer SDK IS in development, just not yet complete.
Re: Exchange
Allegedly, Apple will reveal something on support for Exchange in the coming weeks.
What's critical is that this device can be upgraded by software updates, as it runs a version of OS X. As such, it's well worth identifying what is lacking, and making a racket - of you look at what Apple have quietly been doing recently, you'll see they have been quietly addressing these concerns.
At the end of the day, I think Apple's foray into this market will be really good for mobile phone users, as other companies will attempt to meet user needs for usable interfaces and accessible applications.
Everyone should benefit, hopefully
ivebeenhigh
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if nothing else as with the ipod, Apple are raising the bar for what users should expect. this can only be a good thing for everyone.
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hiraethified
I'm sure that such packs will become available, but there're nowhere near as pocketable as a replaceable battery.rocketman said:
I brought along a replacement Treo battery at Glasto and the price of that worked out cheaper than the pile of PP3 batteries that were swallowed up by the external charger I'd also brought along.
It's a real shame that the battery on the iPhone isn't user-replaceable. Being forced to send off the entire phone for a replacement when it finally conks out ain't the greatest of ideas, IMO. I'd hate to have send off my Treo. And how long is it going to take? And how much will it cost?
editor said:
What's also good is that in the mobile space there's such a multiplicity of operating systems, it's a much more vibrant market, and that's a good thing because diversity of platforms makes for a more secure ecosystem, after all, malware on Windows is partially such a problem because Windows is so very dominant (as a result of Microsoft's previous monopolistic business practices), if the desktop had evolved in the same way as the mobile, then we'd have more OS's and more diversity, and, some claim, less viruses and malware.
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hiraethified
Talking of Glasto:
http://www.urban75.org/tech/glastonbury-tech.html
http://www.urban75.org/tech/glastonbury-tech.html
untethered
For industry & decency
editor said:
Indeed. Being deprived of your phone for say, one week every two years, is hardly an attractive proposition.
More's the point, it's creating a problem that's already been solved. If Apple built houses, you'd have to get an approved engineer in to change the light bulbs.
editor said:
Yeah, I think it is a shame - I can see why it is, in order to produce a lovely looking product, but it makes such sense to make batteries user replacable.
Sadly, I don't think I'll ever be able to convince Apple of this.
And if you think about the US market - most US consumers are such sheep, they actually like to send their gadgets to be upgraded by head teacher.
Then again - I'm not certain the 'return in two years' will simply end up meaning users get a new battery - in two years time, I bet they just get given a new phone, on some trade-in incentive.
It is a sticky point, though, I agree
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