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Kid_Eternity said:

yes, I was impressed after reading the sceptics here. The buttons seem small but some how it seems to guess the one you were going for and it seemed to auto correct well.

the problem at the moment is I can't get the bloody thing to be recognized by iTunes, which is how you register. If it's because I have a non-intel mac with an older version OS10 I'll be very angry. "All Apple technical support representatives are currently busy, please wait for the next available representative...."

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pseudonarcissus said:
the problem at the moment is I can't get the bloody thing to be recognized by iTunes, which is how you register. If it's because I have a non-intel mac with an older version OS10 I'll be very angry. "All Apple technical support representatives are currently busy, please wait for the next available representative...."

Looks like you need Mac OS X 10.4.10 or later required for iPhone

http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/
 
pseudonarcissus said:
This will be interesting. I suspect I only used a small part of my Treo's capability so I probably wouldn't even notice the lack of capability the editor's worried about, I just want email, web and to make calls now and again.
Blimey. You've sure just paid out a whole load of cash to do those basic things - and tied yourself to a two year deal in the process. You must have money to burn!
 
i must say i didn't have my hopes up as the online demo was too slick to believe. played with the real thing now, wow, the iphone is such a sweet thing. text input was surprisingly effective.
 
editor said:
Yowch. Now that's a very unpleasant sting.
it does say on the box OSX 10.4 and above :(
the drawback of apple releasing new versions of its OS more often I guess
 
Silly buggers at Apple have also recessed the headphone socket so many third party headphones won't work with the iPhone.

Still, at least they haven't pissed about with the stooopid 2.5mm socket that blights the Treo.
 
that's so stupid!
the ipod has a flush socket - they should know how to do this
 
well, I'm not so impressed by apple any more. I had to drive to my local apple store, battle through the crowds, but OSx install it....no better....install updates.....now it works, took about an hour. Once that was done the registration is typically apple smooth.

Anyway, it's working now. It is very impressive. For my .mac email account it is a great improvement on the Treo. Messages don't get truncated and the attachments (.pdf and .jpg) open nicely inside the message.

For internet the screen resolution is very good. You see the whole web page and if you know where the hotlink you're after is you seem to get it every time (like "browse the boards"....no zooming necessary). What I want to do soon is try stuff like on-line check-in for flights. That was not practical on the Treo

I'm impressed with the map function, I'd pulled up a street map of Rio in a couple of minutes, and you can do the satellite thing. The weather button is nice too, but I'm not sure if i'll ever use it.

I still like the touch screen. I liked the tactile Palm keyboard.. This one is different but very very good.

Overall, I love it. No regrets in seeing the Palm (600) go. But then, as Mike says, it appears I have money to burn and just wanted a fairly simple device anyway. We don't have 3G in the US, or in Latin America where I send a lot of time so I won't miss your fancy European connection speeds.
 
pseudonarcissus said:
it is a great improvement on the Treo.
I should hope so seeing as your Treo is getting on for four years old and can be picked up for a tiny fraction of the price of the iPhone!
 
editor said:
Silly buggers at Apple have also recessed the headphone socket so many third party headphones won't work with the iPhone.

my nice new Bose ones don't fit, well they will when I've taken a file to them....bugger

the joys of being an early adopter :(
 
editor said:
I should hope so seeing as your Treo is getting on for four years old and can be picked up for a tiny fraction of the price of the iPhone!

but a new 680, or a natty blackberry isn't that much cheaper than the iPone, I would be looking at $350 and up for any pda phone
 
pseudonarcissus said:
but a new 680, or a natty blackberry isn't that much cheaper than the iPone, I would be looking at $350 and up for any pda phone
Apart from the fact that a 680 is way better than a 600, you could still pick one up much cheaper than a iPhone and you wouldn't be tied to one (none too popular) network and a looong two year contract.
 
Yeah, but you're missing out the $200 value, "ooooooh, really fucking shiny thing!" factor :)
 
Crispy said:
Yeah, but you're missing out the $200 value, "ooooooh, really fucking shiny thing!" factor :)
Well obviously. And then there's all those priceless "oohs" and "aaahs!" as you marvel at the eye candy.
 
editor said:
Apart from the fact that a 680 is way better than a 600, you could still pick one up much cheaper than a iPhone and you wouldn't be tied to one (none too popular) network and a looong two year contract.

Palm want $399 for an unlocked 680. I know there's always ebay. Just for information it's $175 for early cancellation. A job offer from another country and they say they will waive that and unlock the phone.

This is not a rational purchase. It's a fashion statement, I guess, but hopefully a fairly functional one. It's not like a diamond encrusted phone

The palm 600 was a product that did the job but in some ways was poorly designed, the sort of thing Apple seem to get over on launch, not wait till the 650 comes out. I needed to buy a new phone anyway and I'd been holding off till the iPhone came out so it's not a completely frivellous purchase.

Just received my first call from my b/f who's in Port Gentil :)

Added the contact and the phone thoughfully was asked to check if it was OK to synch as I'd changed more than 5% of my contacts....
 
pseudonarcissus said:
Palm want $399 for an unlocked 680. I know there's always ebay.
Come on: if you're comparing prices you've got to compare like with like and look at contract phone prices - how much do you think an unlocked iPhone would cost?!!!

Answer: a shitload more than an unlocked 680!
 
editor said:
Come on: if you're comparing prices you've got to compare like with like and look at contract phone prices - how much do you think an unlocked iPhone would cost?!!!

Answer: a shitload more than an unlocked 680!

I just meant to buy anything unlocked here ties you into a 2 year contract. $199 for the 680 and 2 years.

I'm not claiming that the iPod is value for money, but then Mac never have been. Is it worth the extra? Time will tell but it's an impressive device, a lot of the perceived problems aren't there. For me the extra cash isn't that much of an issue. I'm past drinking mild cos it's a penny a pint cheaper (those were the days). The pricing's probably part of Steve Job's genious, just like the iPod, maybe not the best, certainly not the cheapest, but most people pay the extra for the cool design and ease of use, together with the whole hype of a mac launch.

I think I've been brainwashed by some sort of rays from my iMac....or the radiation of my various iPods.
 
How's your phone quality?

This site was really unhappy but a restart improved things:
The kicker, however, is the call audio quality. It is bad. Really bad. We'll have to test it out tomorrow in a stronger signal area, but so far it would rate with some of the worst phones I have tested in the past two years when it comes to the call audio quality heard by the iPhone user. It is too early to say if this is a global problem with the device or just with our unit, but there could be trouble brewing for Apple, to say the least.

[It seems that the audio problem was temporary. A few hours and a restart, while trying to get the WiFi to work, seems to have improved the audio quality greatly. A restart after activation appears to be in order for the iPhone in general. -editor]

http://www.mobileburn.com/gallery.jsp?Page=2&Id=3519
 
editor said:
But hey! If you're happy with the iPhone and can afford the wads of cash for the eye candy... enjoy! :)

Perhaps people just want a phone that looks nice and works out of the box... Just a thought, like...? The Treo is nice but its started to look a bit dated-wise with the default interface...
 
jæd said:
Perhaps people just want a phone that looks nice and works out of the box...
I don't think I've ever had a phone that hasn't looked nice (to my eyes) and worked "out of the box," to be honest.
 
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