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Engadget's ridiculously over the top, endless stream of fucking iPhone 'news' is really starting to get on my tits now.

Yes, it's a beautiful new phone. Yes, it 's an important new development in phone aesthetics. Yes, it looks lovely. Yes, the interface is a treat. But it barely does anything that hasn't been done before, it can't even manage basics like video, cut and paste and picture messaging and there's already lots of phones out there that can do a damn sight more, albeit with a little less style.

The iPhone is definitely worth talking about, but just about every fucking story on Engadget is about the thing right now and it's not that important or revolutionary.

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Edit to add: how sad are these people applauding someone because he's bought a fucking phone?!!

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"Yes! I am Teh Warrior for I have successfully purchased a phone."
 
editor said:
"Yes! I am Teh Warrior for I have successfully purchased a phone."
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Don't interrupt them or they'll invade another country.

It's just the glassy eyed mania that the apple cult provokes in the weak minded.

I'm being unfair actually, I might buy one when it comes here.

But i won't hold it up in the street, or anything.

Oh no.
 
If I'm understanding this thread correctly, does the emerging consensus seem to be that iPhone is SmartPhone Lite - a sophisticated gadget at a premium price that will give most ordinary users access to some pretty cool features, while still leaving plenty of space for (perhaps) more sophisticated devices for so-called advanced users? So does this consensus (if I'm right about its existence) bear up arguments from the likes of Nokia and Palm that iPhone's introduction will make for more interest in advanced devices, and perhaps raise consumer expectation of what they expect from a phone?

Is that fair?
 
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I don't think I've ever had a phone that hasn't looked nice (to my eyes) and worked "out of the box," to be honest.
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innit its what nokia, samsung, Sony erricson,ect have all been doing for years!
 
rocketman said:
If I'm understanding this thread correctly, does the emerging consensus seem to be that iPhone is SmartPhone Lite - a sophisticated gadget at a premium price that will give most ordinary users access to some pretty cool features, while still leaving plenty of space for (perhaps) more sophisticated devices for so-called advanced users? So does this consensus (if I'm right about its existence) bear up arguments from the likes of Nokia and Palm that iPhone's introduction will make for more interest in advanced devices, and perhaps raise consumer expectation of what they expect from a phone?

Is that fair?
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That, and its another thing that winds the Editor up...! :D
 
editor said:
Engadget's ridiculously over the top, endless stream of fucking iPhone 'news' is really starting to get on my tits now.
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Then read a different (and better website) for gadget news...
 
editor said:
Why should I be wound up? :confused:

And why are you trying to make it personal?

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I'm not... You're the one who's posting up stuff like:

"Engadget's ridiculously over the top, endless stream of fucking iPhone 'news' is really starting to get on my tits now."

To me the iPhone is yet another interesting product to come out of Apple. I don't see a use for it with myself, although I appreciate the design and the time it must of taken to make a fairly attractive and (apperantly) easy to use smart-phone.

Its not for me, and I guess its not for the majority of geeks who have smart-phones already. It's an eay-to-use smart-phone for consumers...

Dunno about you, but when stuff starts "getting on my tits" I try to avoid it... So, by posting up links to the iPhone it looks like you're getting yourself wound-up over nothing...! :D

Endless criticism over minor-points by someone hasn't directly used the gadget and doesn't intend to use the phone does get a bit tedious... :D
 
jæd said:
I'm not... You're the one who's posting up stuff like:

"Engadget's ridiculously over the top, endless stream of fucking iPhone 'news' is really starting to get on my tits now."
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That's an on-topic comment about the current media coverage of the iPhone, and a valid observation about the unprecedented hype. Even some Engadget regulars are complaining about the amount of coverage.

Your off-topic comment was, however, pointlessly personal, provocative and factually inaccurate. I haven't been "wound up" at any point in this thread.
 
editor said:
That's an on-topic comment about the current media coverage of the iPhone, and a valid observation about the unprecedented hype. Even some Engadget regulars are complaining about the amount of coverage.

Your off-topic comment was, however, pointlessly personal, provocative and factually inaccurate. I haven't been "wound up" at any point in this thread.
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Have to agree that with the sheer volume of iPhone stuff flying around at the moment it is becoming increasingly difficult to locate, explore or report on non-iphone IT stories. It's like a deluge, it is just a little, erm, over-enthusiastic.
 
editor said:
Your off-topic comment was, however, pointlessly personal, provocative and factually inaccurate. I haven't been "wound up" at any point in this thread.
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Up to you, but if something "gets on my tits" I'm usually on the way to wind-up city...! :D
 
rocketman said:
Have to agree that with the sheer volume of iPhone stuff flying around at the moment it is becoming increasingly difficult to locate, explore or report on non-iphone IT stories. It's like a deluge, it is just a little, erm, over-enthusiastic.
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A large company has produced an innovative phone thats been anticipated for months... In a week the whole thing will blow over. In the meantime, you use the negative google search like "-iphone mobile phone news" to get news about mobile phones which doesn't mention the iPhone...
 
jæd said:
A large company has produced an innovative phone thats been anticipated for months... In a week the whole thing will blow over. In the meantime, you use the negative google search like "-iphone mobile phone news" to get news about mobile phones which doesn't mention the iPhone...
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Well that's true too, but this is relevant to the point
http://feeds.pcworld.com/~r/pcworld/latestnews/~3/129299295/article.html
(She's alright Elizabeth, at times).
 
jæd said:
A large company has produced an innovative phone thats been anticipated for months... In a week the whole thing will blow over. In the meantime, you use the negative google search like "-iphone mobile phone news" to get news about mobile phones which doesn't mention the iPhone...
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I've no idea why you think the truly unprecedented hype surrounding the iPhone isn't worthy of discussion on a thread about the, err, iPhone here, but there you go.

There's never been a launch like it, and I'm interested in observing and - yes! - commenting on what's going on because it's a fascinating topic.
 
Marius said:
We did the same with the PS3 hype recently too. That was overboard too.
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PS3 hype was major, but I don't think it came close to iPhone.

I'm looking forward to seeing what the bloggers in the US with iPhones think in a few weeks time, when the first gasp enthusiasm has died down.

Don't get me wrong - I do think this device will raise the bar in many ways, and it's design is pure Ive - lovely and usable - but how good is it, really?

It's going to be interesting to see that answer emerge on the basis of actual use.
 
rocketman said:
PS3 hype was major, but I don't think it came close to iPhone.

I'm looking forward to seeing what the bloggers in the US with iPhones think in a few weeks time, when the first gasp enthusiasm has died down.

Don't get me wrong - I do think this device will raise the bar in many ways, and it's design is pure Ive - lovely and usable - but how good is it, really?

It's going to be interesting to see that answer emerge on the basis of actual use.
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Yep... That and what the proposed SDK can allow the iPhone to do...!
 
jæd said:
Yep... That and what the proposed SDK can allow the iPhone to do...!
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Yeah. I'm hearing an SDK is in development, but don't anticipate that in double quick time (Leopard takes priority - unless it's part of Leopard's dev tools, which it could easily be).

Also hearing Exchange support in coming weeks.
 
rocketman said:
PS3 hype was major, but I don't think it came close to iPhone.
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I haven't heard any stories about iPhone stores giving away free HD TVs and taxis home.

I think the Sony hype was bigger but iPhones is coming close.
 
jæd said:
Personally I find Ars Technicana good for news... Mostly because they look at things in-depth to technical level, unlike the majority of the IT press... (And yes, there is an iPhone story, but actually seems quite objective...)
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Plus they have a great strapline:

serving the technologist for 8x10^-2 centuries

:)
 
Ars Technica manage to field some of the best analysis going, frankly. They have great technical writers, and allow those writers the chance to focus on one article for a week, if required, rather than churning out huge amounts.

The fact Sony gave away HDTVs and such-like sums up why the iPhone hype is so much larger - all hype, no bribe. But I don't see it as that important which hype was/is bigger, not really, main thing is there's a lot of hype.
 
rocketman said:
Don't get me wrong - I do think this device will raise the bar in many ways, and it's design is pure Ive - lovely and usable - but how good is it, really?

It's going to be interesting to see that answer emerge on the basis of actual use.
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I reckon that the iPhone is going to deliver in a lot of departments, but some of the more tech-savvy types may get frustrated by the current lack of software functionality.

If you're coming from, say, a Treo, then you're still going to be wowed by the swish interface, beautiful finish and lovely aesthetics, but I fancy some advanced users may find their love affair being a tad blighted when they find it can't do anywhere near as many things as their last phone.

Of course, things will improve as more software becomes available.
 
They key thing is that although the feature set is smaller, it's geared towards the less tech-savvy, the same way the ipod was. It will be very interesting just how open the SDK will be though - for geeky fiddlers like us, the 3rd-party software scene will be of prime importance if we're thinking of getting one.
 
Crispy said:
They key thing is that although the feature set is smaller, it's geared towards the less tech-savvy, the same way the ipod was.
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Yes, but I'd wager a lot of the people queuing up to buy the iPhone are tech-savvy.
 
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