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This guy reckons the iPhone won't impact much on the Treo/Blackberry market:
http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3653211
http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3653211
editor said:This guy reckons the iPhone won't impact much on the Treo/Blackberry market:
http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3653211
Remember that when the ipod launched, there were already quite a few 5GB MP3 hard disk players. The ipod just did it really well and looked good. That's all the iphone does.robotsimon said:Apart from the admittedly gorgeous looks, I don't see what's revolutionary about this. I don't think it can do much (anything?) that my Nokia n80 can't do - quad band, wifi, 3mp camera, web browser, e-mail, video and mp3 player. And the n80 runs symbian which means you can get a whole load of third party software for it.
Kid_Eternity said:Yeah but I reckon the iPod got the same thing back when it was first released...
http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/23/1816257&mode=thread&tid=107slashdot said:"At an invitation only event Apple has released their new MP3 player called the iPod. iPod is the size of a deck of cards. 2.4" wide by 4" tall by .78" thick 6.5 ounces. 5 GB HDD, 10 hr battery life, charged via FireWire. Works as a firewire drive as well. Works in conjunctions with iTunes 2. Here are Live updates". No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.
jæd said:http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/23/1816257&mode=thread&tid=107
Least they included wireless this time...
“We define everything that is on the phone,” he said. “You don’t want your phone to be like a PC. The last thing you want is to have loaded three apps on your phone and then you go to make a call and it doesn’t work anymore. These are more like iPods than they are like computers.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/11/t...exprod=permalink&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin
“These are devices that need to work, and you can’t do that if you load any software on them,” he said. “That doesn’t mean there’s not going to be software to buy that you can load on them coming from us. It doesn’t mean we have to write it all, but it means it has to be more of a controlled environment.”
editor said:Some wag's already made an iPhone interface for the Treo!
Looks like third party apps are going to be few and far between for the iPhone, with Jobs wanting full control over what gets to be installed:
Buddy Bradley said:
You know, I wouldn't mind, as long as it comes with enough software to do its job properly. After all, I don't want or need to install extra software on my current phone...editor said:Some wag's already made an iPhone interface for the Treo!
Looks like third party apps are going to be few and far between for the iPhone, with Jobs wanting full control over what gets to be installed:
Crispy said:You know, I wouldn't mind, as long as it comes with enough software to do its job properly. After all, I don't want or need to install extra software on my current phone...
For techy people who like customising everything and fiddling with doodads, this is not the phone for them. But like the iPod, it just does a few things WELL. There's tons of other MP3 players with more features, open platforms etc. but none of them are as painless to use as an iPod. That is the philosophy behind the iPhone and I think it's why it will succeed.
Well, that very much depends on the kind of phone you need. I need both a phone and something I can take away for a weekend instead of my laptop.Crispy said:You know, I wouldn't mind, as long as it comes with enough software to do its job properly. After all, I don't want or need to install extra software on my current phone...
dogmatique said:Is this two year contract thing standard in the States? I notice that the iPhone contract with Cingular is also two years - that's a hell of a period to recoup device subsidy...
Yeah, but really, how many people actually want to do all that with their phone? (not to mention, the iphone does half of those things already) I know you do, but you are not the target audience for this device. They're going for mass market (eventually, once the price comes down)editor said:Well, that very much depends on the kind of phone you need. I need both a phone and something I can take away for a weekend instead of my laptop.
The best thing about the Treo is the huuuuge selection of stable software available covering GPS, fax, graphics, web, ftp, Word, maps, email, audio, video, RSS, IRC, dictionaries, games etc etc.
Crispy said:Yeah, but really, how many people actually want to do all that with their phone? (not to mention, the iphone does half of those things already) I know you do, but you are not the target audience for this device. They're going for mass market (eventually, once the price comes down)
pseudonarcissus said:but with Mac products the price never comes down...they just add features or speed or memory...
Quite a lot of people in the business/smartphone sector, I'd imagine.Crispy said:Yeah, but really, how many people actually want to do all that with their phone?
editor said:Looks like third party apps are going to be few and far between for the iPhone, with Jobs wanting full control over what gets to be installed:
Crispy said:but you are not the target audience for this device.
tarannau said:Erm? What about the imac then? Even the G5 version of the imac was considerably cheaper than the G3 and G4 variants....
Why?Kid_Eternity said:I think this is a critical point.
editor said:Why?
If the iPhone had a hardware keyboard, I'd definitely be giving it a good look.
Do you know exactly what the iPhone will be capable of?Kid_Eternity said:I thought we were talking about how many apps it'd have etc?
editor said:Do you know exactly what the iPhone will be capable of?
I don't, that's why I would have given it a good look (if it had a decent keyboard, that is).
And you know all this before the iphone's even been released?rocketman said:It's much better than a Treo. I'd argue that lack of 3G or support for Word documents is a little more important. But I doubt all the quibbles will remain unsolved by the time it ships in the UK - mostly that's just software.
Apple is a software company.
Nokia isn't. And Palm's a spent force. And as for RIM - who they gonna nick ideas from?