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Shippou-Sensei
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Here's interesting for all iPhone wathcers.
Apple to release iPhone developers SDK in February
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/
Let me just say it: We want native third party applications on the iPhone, and we plan to have an SDK in developers’ hands in February. S. JObs
Apple to release iPhone developers SDK in February
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/
Let me just say it: We want native third party applications on the iPhone, and we plan to have an SDK in developers’ hands in February. S. JObs
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The following psytrance is baṉned: All
They haven't said yet, but there will be some sort of application signing, yes. You know what apple are like, they want to maintain the pristine experience for the users, so would hate for malicious or malformed applications to get out onto the iphone.
Well, it looks like they are attempting to create a viable compromise, according to El Jobso.
As he says: "Some companies are already taking action. Nokia, for example, is not allowing any applications to be loaded onto some of their newest phones unless they have a digital signature that can be traced back to a known developer. While this makes such a phone less than “totally open,” we believe it is a step in the right direction. We are working on an advanced system which will offer developers broad access to natively program the iPhone’s amazing software platform while at the same time protecting users from malicious programs."
So it could be more open than you predict, but clearly not a totally open session for malware writers. Still, given that this is one of the reasons people give for rejecting the device, it is at least an attempt to address what people think.
Hmm - what apps would be the business?
As he says: "Some companies are already taking action. Nokia, for example, is not allowing any applications to be loaded onto some of their newest phones unless they have a digital signature that can be traced back to a known developer. While this makes such a phone less than “totally open,” we believe it is a step in the right direction. We are working on an advanced system which will offer developers broad access to natively program the iPhone’s amazing software platform while at the same time protecting users from malicious programs."
So it could be more open than you predict, but clearly not a totally open session for malware writers. Still, given that this is one of the reasons people give for rejecting the device, it is at least an attempt to address what people think.
Hmm - what apps would be the business?
rocketman said:
Nice... Although its what everyone's been saying for a while -- this morning I was reading yet more rumours of a SDK in Jan/Feb. If Palm don't get their act together soon (ie Feb) I might be in the market for an iPhone...!
I'm also guessing at unlocked iPhones around then as well...!
Hhmmmm... PDA, anyone...
jæd said:Hhmmmm... PDA, anyone...
Yeah, give me an email app on the touch and I'll have it. Last thing I need is people calling up. Email and Web access in me pocket - great...
Then again, the touch enabled sub notebook can't be too far away, either. And I"m looking forward to transportable HOme folders (which I reckon is possible now)
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I don't actually. Why does it have to be Apple?rocketman said:
I like Palm - a lot - but I'd happily switch brands if I found some other brand else creating something better suited my needs.
I don't really understand this 'must. buy. Apple. no. matter. what' mentality, to be honest.
It sounds to me like the new Nokia could be a better choice for you but I guess you won't be interested.
Had a play with an ipod touch the other day... I'm totally sold... iPhone on Nov 9th for me.
Problems I expect: O2 EDGE Coverage being a bit shit. A few irritations in the UI. I think the cut and paste thing will be annoying. Data a bit slow even with EDGE. No multi-send SMS.
"Problem" I surely know: A bit pricey.
BUT! The joy for sure: A really good UI. Really really good. Win CE, Symbian et al don't come near, at least as a personal device rather than business. And if it was business, Blackberry is what I'd get.
Proper browser. A real proper browser. OK it's Safari, but it's a "real" Browser.
The iPhone isn't issue free, for sure (especially not the pricing & sales policy), but I don't think it's really comparable with anything else out there.
Problems I expect: O2 EDGE Coverage being a bit shit. A few irritations in the UI. I think the cut and paste thing will be annoying. Data a bit slow even with EDGE. No multi-send SMS.
"Problem" I surely know: A bit pricey.
BUT! The joy for sure: A really good UI. Really really good. Win CE, Symbian et al don't come near, at least as a personal device rather than business. And if it was business, Blackberry is what I'd get.
Proper browser. A real proper browser. OK it's Safari, but it's a "real" Browser.
The iPhone isn't issue free, for sure (especially not the pricing & sales policy), but I don't think it's really comparable with anything else out there.
editor said:
Oh crap I thought you realised. I know about Apple stuff because (if you like) my job is to know in order to help other people who don't, so using the kit is part of that. Does that make sense now?
As per the other thing Palm, Nokia, whatever, I don't care what technology anyone uses (as long as it's not that evil anti-competitive government cock sucking DOJ antitrust settlement Bush government buying bunch of cunts in Redmond) as long as it works for them.
Ther'es no vested interest, here. I'd love to look at the new Nokia, but not so much Palm (who will be very interesting in around 18-months, I reckon, once new management kick in.
I'm no fanboi. But that sector is my industry, you know?
Well, you do know, cos I told you before, perhaps you weren't listening, whatever, I ain't saying it here though 'cos it's MY PERSONAL stuff - you know?
Shippou-Sensei
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rocketman said:
it's like a marketing student and a zen buddist got caught in a teleportation accident
rocketman said:
Yep... there will be two versions there - locked (std price) and unlocked (premium price).
If Apple doesn't nobble the French unlocked phone in some other way then - depending on how much of a premium they want - that could work out cheaper for me.
Price for the unlocked version will be announce in November apparently. I'd guess it will be at least 749 euros, so that Apple gets the same profit that they would otherwise get from a locked phone (the AT&T kickback is 360ish dollars, apparently).
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For industry & decency
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My phone cost £20. It can make calls, send texts, tell the time and it's even got a torch built in.
When I need to use a computer, I do.
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It's grim up north (London)
Quite, and I figured €749 was paulo's estimate of the SRP. I imagine Nokia are selling at the SRP from their web site. Of course you're usually going to find things well below SRP if you look around.
I was comparing Apples with Apples and not Oranges ['scuse the pun]
I was comparing Apples with Apples and not Oranges ['scuse the pun
]Yep indeed. 749 was a guess at SRP.
The good thing is that it will make it more transparent. If you think, unlocked, an N95 at price x is more attractive than an iPhone at price y, you can make that decision objectively.
It's questionable whether the iPhone is value for money right now, but it is a step change for phones - it combines the world's most popular music player, with a phone that continues the same values that made the iPod No.1
The good thing is that it will make it more transparent. If you think, unlocked, an N95 at price x is more attractive than an iPhone at price y, you can make that decision objectively.
It's questionable whether the iPhone is value for money right now, but it is a step change for phones - it combines the world's most popular music player, with a phone that continues the same values that made the iPod No.1
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