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gabi said:
Enjoy ya blue screens tho bois :D
Neither OS is "vastly superior" to the other and I haven't had a blue screen for longer than I can recall.

I do hope you're going to offer more to this thread than another lame Mac vs PC rerun.
 
gabi said:
Ha... this thread reminds me of one of Tarrannau's obsesssed man united hating ones. Yawn.

Ever noticed how 'fanbois' never bother posting up threads commenting on MS's latest 'innovations'? I mean whats the point? Certain posters on this thread have a bizarre and unhealthy obsession with hating Mac, which i really dont get. I use both OS's daily and its clear to me which is vastly superior. Its not from seattle.

Enjoy ya blue screens tho bois :D

Ah I think I see the problem here. You know, Microsoft haven't released just one operating system! Are you still using Windows 3.1, thinking nothing has changed???
 
editor said:
Neither OS is "vastly superior" to the other and I haven't had a blue screen for longer than I can recall.

I do hope you're going to offer more to this thread than another lame Mac vs PC rerun.

Fair enough, it just seems to me that certain posters (including yourself) would diss Apple even if they came up with a cure for cancer.

The iPhone is the best phone I've ever had a go on - personally tho im gonna give it a miss and just get the ipod touch, which has all the features i particularly loved on the phone (without the stupidly fucking expensive O2 contract). Ill reserve my judgement on the unlocking issues for now.
 
gabi said:
Fair enough, it just seems to me that certain posters (including yourself) would diss Apple even if they came up with a cure for cancer.
That's simply rubbish, but if it makes you feel better, you go on believing that.
 
gabi said:
The iPhone is the best phone I've ever had a go on - personally tho im gonna give it a miss and just get the ipod touch, which has all the features i particularly loved on the phone (without the stupidly fucking expensive O2 contract). Ill reserve my judgement on the unlocking issues for now.

Thats most of the reason I got an ipod touch -- to see what all the fuss was about. Its also a very nice shiny gadget as well. I'm interested that it was originally locked down tighter than the iPhone. I'm guessing they continued working on it after they released the iPhone, and the firmware update was (on the the iPhone side) to bring them in line with each other...
 
jæd said:
Thats most of the reason I got an ipod touch -- to see what all the fuss was about. Its also a very nice shiny gadget as well. I'm interested that it was originally locked down tighter than the iPhone. I'm guessing they continued working on it after they released the iPhone, and the firmware update was (on the the iPhone side) to bring them in line with each other...

There were complaints that there are a lot of things on the phone that are pointlessly missing on the touch, so which was brought into line?
 
Sunray said:
There were complaints that there are a lot of things on the phone that are pointlessly missing on the touch, so which was brought into line?

Security. You've never been able to run apps on the 'touch... The update brought security on the iphone in line with the touch...
 
DJ Bigga said:
Man that must hurt!
Thing is, I can see the iPhone is a lovely piece of kit with a gorgeous interface, but the high cost of the thing (and the 18 month contract) puts me right off.

I'd be unlikely to take such an expensive phone down the pub but my main beef would be not being able to fiddle about with the thing and load up tons of software.

I don't think I could resist the temptation to load up some non-Herr Jobs approved software and then I'd run the risk of borking the thing into a very expensive brick.
 
iPhone Extreme coming?

Yet more rumours...

iphone-extreme.jpg


Our Deutchland compadres to the East, MacPrime have found a little nugget of gold. It could be a HTML programming error but we, of course, like to speculate that there is more. If you look at the source code of Apple's iPhone Feedback Page, you'll notice the term iPhone Extreme.
While "Extreme" is a tired name in the tech marketing world, Apple still has an affinity for it. You have to look no further than Apple's Airport line to find the name denoting the latest and greatest iteration of the product.
So what would this iPhone have? Yep 16Gb Ram, 3G and GPS. Finally. All signs point to February. Kinda early to be telling the HTML coders if you ask us.
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
But...... why? :confused:

Genuine question!

Well for starters I'm a bit of a gadget magpie:oops: But also

1) I'm currently on O2
2) am at the end of my current 18 month contract
3) have been seriously considering an Ipod of the last 3 months or so
4) Need a new phone (though I would prefer a smarter smart phone than this)
And most importantly
5) None of the downsides I've read about are enough to put me off!

:D
 
DJ Bigga said:
3) have been seriously considering an Ipod of the last 3 months or so
4) Need a new phone (though I would prefer a smarter smart phone than this)
And most importantly
Why not just get an iPod and a more capable phone?
The Nokia N95 has a ton more functionality - e.g. GPS, video, MMS etc - than the iPhone and it's free with the kind of contract you'd be committing to 02 with!

I have to say I've been (unexpectedly) mightily impressed with the Palm 500v/Vodafone combo too.

The phone's cheap as fuck and the location based services and TV stuff are really good.
 
editor said:
Why not just get an iPod and a more capable phone?
The Nokia N95 has a ton more functionality - e.g. GPS, video, MMS etc - than the iPhone and it's free with the kind of contract you'd be committing to 02 with!

I have to say I've been (unexpectedly) mightily impressed with the Palm 500v/Vodafone combo too.

The phone's cheap as fuck and the location based services and TV stuff are really good.

true, I am aware of the N95 I'm currently walking around with the N91, Problem with N95 though is it just ain't pretty is it? Also it again isn't really 'smart' enough. Ideally I'd like the feature set of a Treo all wrapped up in a Iphone.
<ducks>
 
DJ Bigga said:
true, I am aware of the N95 I'm currently walking around with the N91, Problem with N95 though is it just ain't pretty is it? Also it again isn't really 'smart' enough. Ideally I'd like the feature set of a Treo all wrapped up in a Iphone.
<ducks>
Specifically, what features are you after? The iPhone is pretty, but it's barely what I'd call a smartphone.
 
editor said:
Specifically, what features are you after? The iPhone is pretty, but it's barely what I'd call a smartphone.

No exactly, it's not smart at all, though it is very pretty. :D

Ideally this is the feature set I'd like to see:

Bluetooth (file transfer, accessories etc)
Wifi
Mini USB for charging and Data connection
full html/java/flash browser
Mass storage capabilities
Email and calendar
outlook/thunderbird sync
usb modem capability
Music player of at least 4gb


I'm sure I'll remember a few more later
 
DJ Bigga said:
Ideally this is the feature set I'd like to see:

Bluetooth (file transfer, accessories etc)
Wifi
Mini USB for charging and Data connection
full html/java/flash browser
Mass storage capabilities
Email and calendar
outlook/thunderbird sync
usb modem capability
Music player of at least 4gb
You'll find far better email clients available on WM/Palm devices, and there's more flexible and powerful calender apps available on those platforms too (and quite possibly Symbian too).

Flash doesn't work on the iPhone's Safari browser, neither does Java and I don't think it natively syncs with Thunderbird either. Last time I looked, you couldn't use the iPhone as a modem.

I could be wrong here, but I think you need to use a 3rd party app to use the iPhone as a mass storage tool - and that means running the risk of having your phone turned into a brick. I don't think it does Bluetooth file transfers either - in fact, it doesn't do a great deal of Bluetooth, full stop.

AFAIK, if you use iPhone it'll want you to be tied very closely to iTunes too.

Incidentally, the Treo does most of the above, except no Wi-Fi, Flash browsing and USB charging (unless you use the Windows version). The Nokia ticks most of those boxes, albeit at the expense of a pretty horrible form factor/interface.

One thing: if you get a 3G/unlimited data deal, the need for wi-fi does decrease dramatically. I don't miss it and surfing on a small screen is always going to be shit if you're looking for a full graphics experience really.
 
editor said:
I don't miss it and surfing on a small screen is always going to be shit if you're looking for a full graphics experience really.

Not really. The Nokia e61 has a very slick browser, and the iPhones is even better. The thing about the iPhone is that is basic, but it works very well without spodding around.

Palm would be nice but until they come out with a GSM version of the Centro its wait-and-see pie...
 
Yeah I know of all of the Iphones specs including lack of bluetooth and the whole mass storage thing, I'm aware of most of the negatives surrounding it but I still think it's a hell of a gadget. Who knows I might sell it after a month and get a Treo! :p
 
editor said:
I could be wrong here, but I think you need to use a 3rd party app to use the iPhone as a mass storage tool - and that means running the risk of having your phone turned into a brick. I don't think it does Bluetooth file transfers either - in fact, it doesn't do a great deal of Bluetooth, full stop.

You'd need a 3rd party tool (ie iPhuc) to do it. Do you risk bricking it using this...? Yep, but most of tales of woe have now been debunked.
 
jæd said:
You'd need a 3rd party tool (ie iPhuc) to do it. Do you risk bricking it using this...? Yep, but most of tales of woe have now been debunked.
Either way, you're inviting a load of potential grief and possible damage to your phone just to do what the phone should have done in the first place.
 
editor said:
You'll find far better email clients available on WM/Palm devices, and there's more flexible and powerful calender apps available on those platforms too (and quite possibly Symbian too).

Flash doesn't work on the iPhone's Safari browser, neither does Java and I don't think it natively syncs with Thunderbird either. Last time I looked, you couldn't use the iPhone as a modem.

I could be wrong here, but I think you need to use a 3rd party app to use the iPhone as a mass storage tool - and that means running the risk of having your phone turned into a brick. I don't think it does Bluetooth file transfers either - in fact, it doesn't do a great deal of Bluetooth, full stop.

AFAIK, if you use iPhone it'll want you to be tied very closely to iTunes too.

Incidentally, the Treo does most of the above, except no Wi-Fi, Flash browsing and USB charging (unless you use the Windows version). The Nokia ticks most of those boxes, albeit at the expense of a pretty horrible form factor/interface.

One thing: if you get a 3G/unlimited data deal, the need for wi-fi does decrease dramatically. I don't miss it and surfing on a small screen is always going to be shit if you're looking for a full graphics experience really.

I think this shows that Apple missed a trick really and there is no winner in this little tortoise race. There is defo a market for a slick phone with all the above, nobody has cornered it.
 
editor said:
Either way, you're inviting a load of potential grief and possible damage to your phone just to do what the phone should have done in the first place.

Why "should" a phone be a portable hard-drive...? :confused: If you want that then buy a portable hard-drive... Personally I like gadgets to do what they are best at.

(And if you find yourself doing that all the time, get a phone with that function. The iPhone is a nice consumer phone. Its not for spoddy people who spend their time fiddling with things to get them to work. Not sure how complicated this is...)

Sure the Treo and others can do that but its been very rare that I've actually used that dunctionality... Most of the time I use my phone for calling people...
 
jæd said:
Why "should" a phone be a portable hard-drive...? :confused: If you want that then buy a portable hard-drive... Personally I like gadgets to do what they are best at.

(And if you find yourself doing that all the time, get a phone with that function. The iPhone is a nice consumer phone. Its not for spoddy people who spend their time fiddling with things to get them to work. Not sure how complicated this is...)

Sure the Treo and others can do that but its been very rare that I've actually used that dunctionality... Most of the time I use my phone for calling people...

Perhaps thats because the operators and phone manufacturers have combined so that you couldn't be arsed to do anything else as its stupidly hard to do.
 
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