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Sunray said:
Not really... The Treo is very easy to use as a portable hard-drive. Its just that if I'm going to copying something its even easier to use a portable hard-drive because 100% of the time I have a portable hard-drive near me I have the correct cable for it... I don't carry the cable for my Treo all the time...
That, and if I'm going to copy a file thats too big to email, its going to not fit on my Treo anyway...
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Good peice in the NY Times about Apple/AT&T's attitude to 3rd party programs:
AT&T Welcomes Programmers for All Phones Except the iPhone
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/01/att-welcomes-programmers-for-all-phones-except-the-iphone/
AT&T Welcomes Programmers for All Phones Except the iPhone
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/01/att-welcomes-programmers-for-all-phones-except-the-iphone/
Structaural
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LG brings out an iPhone 'killer' - a touchscreen phone with built in real keyboard.
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/8405.html
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/8405.html
Interesting post that could mean that there may be an Iphone SDK:
Doesn't seem to be web based as:
That sounds like more than just AJAX on the iPhone...
http://sitening.com/blog/2007/10/05/new-evidence-of-an-apple-iphone-sdk/
Doesn't seem to be web based as:
That sounds like more than just AJAX on the iPhone...
http://sitening.com/blog/2007/10/05/new-evidence-of-an-apple-iphone-sdk/
Crispy
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That thing has 2 enormous screens.Structaural said:LG brings out an iPhone 'killer' - a touchscreen phone with built in real keyboard.
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/8405.html
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Crispy said:
and is probably half the price.
Nokia have waded in with this ad:
Good. Apple's proprietarily-ness (I must have made that up) is gettting out of hand (and you don't realise til you buy a mac how deep it is).
Structaural said:and is probably half the price.
Nokia have waded in with this ad:
I'd be interested in what you mean by that... Most of OS X appears to be built on open-source systems. So far there isn't anything that can't be replaced by non-Apple alternatives...
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proprietary doesn't just mean 'not open-source'
Let's see,
you pretty much have to buy their hardware to use their OS, this almost always been the case - but that pretty much establishes them as proprietary.
if you tamper with your own purchased phone then it can be bricked
if you wish to use third party (say Linux) iTunes software then it's nixed on almost every update to the firmware.
iWeb will only export websites to .mac (you have to export to folder and ftp to your own site) - and won't allow many features on non .mac sites.
I can barely use any third party camera's on my macpro and the iSight is no longer available.
Only three graphic cards (prices, 130, 500, 1200euros) out of the massive choice for pcs are available because Apples insists on writing it's own drivers and won't allow enough choice, and they all work out around 30-80% more expensive.
To the initiated RAM is very overpriced and often made apple specific (like adding a massive heat sink to pro ram so they don't have to put in an extra fan)
No developer kits for Apple TV, iPod and only very limited one on iPhone.
Can't play DivX, Xvid on Apple TV (unless you hack it).
They've almost fucked Microsoft off their platform and seem to have Adobe in their sights as well. That worries me because I don't want to rely on one company for my hardware, my OS and my Apps.
Ultimately my biggest beef with apple is the lack of choice - no decent middleweight desktop machine - limited choice of hardware to put in your machines, and the fact that they've always made it difficult to upgrade (especially the iMacs), I'd be surprised if I can replace the motherboard in my macpro in 4 years time.
Now I knew most of this because I've worked on Macs since 1988, but I'd never owned one at home until this year, and there's a certain frustration with being locked into one company for a lot of what I want/need. The realisation that Apple seem to go out of their way to scupper a lot of third party development (fucking up old TV connectors to the iPod for instance) pisses me off. That's all..
I remember the end of the eighties when massive proprietary companies like Dicomed, Crosfield and Sun systems were almost ruined because their extremely overpriced in-house systems were easily replaced with PCs and Macs (where's the Quantel Paintbox now?) and I was glad. So it seems mildy annoying that Apple seems to have a similar strategy. Or maybe the business model is based more on Bang Olufsen's these days.
Let's see,
you pretty much have to buy their hardware to use their OS, this almost always been the case - but that pretty much establishes them as proprietary.
if you tamper with your own purchased phone then it can be bricked
if you wish to use third party (say Linux) iTunes software then it's nixed on almost every update to the firmware.
iWeb will only export websites to .mac (you have to export to folder and ftp to your own site) - and won't allow many features on non .mac sites.
I can barely use any third party camera's on my macpro and the iSight is no longer available.
Only three graphic cards (prices, 130, 500, 1200euros) out of the massive choice for pcs are available because Apples insists on writing it's own drivers and won't allow enough choice, and they all work out around 30-80% more expensive.
To the initiated RAM is very overpriced and often made apple specific (like adding a massive heat sink to pro ram so they don't have to put in an extra fan)
No developer kits for Apple TV, iPod and only very limited one on iPhone.
Can't play DivX, Xvid on Apple TV (unless you hack it).
They've almost fucked Microsoft off their platform and seem to have Adobe in their sights as well. That worries me because I don't want to rely on one company for my hardware, my OS and my Apps.
Ultimately my biggest beef with apple is the lack of choice - no decent middleweight desktop machine - limited choice of hardware to put in your machines, and the fact that they've always made it difficult to upgrade (especially the iMacs), I'd be surprised if I can replace the motherboard in my macpro in 4 years time.
Now I knew most of this because I've worked on Macs since 1988, but I'd never owned one at home until this year, and there's a certain frustration with being locked into one company for a lot of what I want/need. The realisation that Apple seem to go out of their way to scupper a lot of third party development (fucking up old TV connectors to the iPod for instance) pisses me off. That's all..
I remember the end of the eighties when massive proprietary companies like Dicomed, Crosfield and Sun systems were almost ruined because their extremely overpriced in-house systems were easily replaced with PCs and Macs (where's the Quantel Paintbox now?) and I was glad. So it seems mildy annoying that Apple seems to have a similar strategy. Or maybe the business model is based more on Bang Olufsen's these days.
Structaural said:
I know. But it does mean that a component/item is tied to one supplier, ie, Apple. Not that a deature may be missing or a SDK isn't available to everyone... (Have you tried the Developer Network... Apple's seems quite good)
Out of your laundry list, I'd say only the following come close:
Structaural said:
Items like firmware can be replaced. And its no surprise that updating the Apple firmware over a 3rd-party firmware will wipe it...
Oh, and I've got a Logitech web-cam that runs fun under OS X...
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
Most of the above is the reason I don't buy Mac. I like to have a nice choice of hardware to plug into my machine and not worry that it doesn't have drivers.
Apples weird shift to tie everything into them is strange. Strange because the original iPod's fame (and essentially Apples new 'cool' status) was pretty much born out of being able top play stuff from anywhere.
They have become increasingly 'Me me me' without anything of substance to make their products stand out. OK it might be easier to use for the non-tech, but that alone does not justify their current attitude.
Apples weird shift to tie everything into them is strange. Strange because the original iPod's fame (and essentially Apples new 'cool' status) was pretty much born out of being able top play stuff from anywhere.
They have become increasingly 'Me me me' without anything of substance to make their products stand out. OK it might be easier to use for the non-tech, but that alone does not justify their current attitude.
Structaural
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jæd said:
I've two Logitechs that don't... (mac cam or that other driver won't make them worth either - annoying as one of them cost 60 quid).
That turned into a bit of a rant, I just want to put an nVidia 8800 or 8500 in my mac at the end of the day. I can avoid the rest of Job's kingdom of aliminium quite easily.
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Sunray said:
I agree, the main selling point was that, a decent device to fill up with all those Napster tunes
Structaural
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Structaural said:
annoyingly there's a nv8600 in the new MacBook Pro
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But before they used chips no-one else used, the inside of an mac is pretty much the same as most pcs now, so it's not much to expect a little more choice. Tossers. (Teach me to not do enough research - I assumed I could put any card in it).
e2a Maybe I can with this (wanky-named) site's help: http://www.themacelite.com/forums/index.php
e2a Maybe I can with this (wanky-named) site's help: http://www.themacelite.com/forums/index.php
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Shippou-Sensei
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i don't useually vent like thid but
had to set up the new mac for work today
the fucking thing crashed on me summin like 5 times
crashed quicktime trying to play some video
crashed finder and system preferences trying to change the desktop picture
crashed system preferences every fucking single time i tried to add safari to the logon items list
had to set up the new mac for work today
the fucking thing crashed on me summin like 5 times
crashed quicktime trying to play some video
crashed finder and system preferences trying to change the desktop picture
crashed system preferences every fucking single time i tried to add safari to the logon items list
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hiraethified
I don't really 'get' those Nokia tablets to be honest and I loathe onscreen keyboards, but bear in mind that the 'chunky' N95 8GB has no memory card slot.DJ Bigga said:Well I've finally made my decision and after much deliberation I've decided there are just too many drawbacks to the IPhone for me to abandon my irrational hatred of all things Apple.
So I'm buying one of these and getting an 8gb N95 for free.
has this one been mentioned?
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/03/samsungs-croix-yet-another-iphone-rival/
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/03/samsungs-croix-yet-another-iphone-rival/
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
no
it was working when i did it again this morning
apple... it's the new microsoft
it was working when i did it again this morning
apple... it's the new microsoft
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