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jæd said:
I bow before your superior knowledge of, um, "product launches"....
Good job too, because as you can see, I was proved 100% correct and your cheap little personal snipe just made you look a little foolish.

:D :D :D
 
*chalks another point on the scoreboard*

It's getting messy, give me a minute while I wipe it down and put the tally back up.
 
editor said:
Good job too, because as you can see, I was proved 100% correct and your cheap little personal snipe just made you look a little foolish.

Google said:
Google Trends aims to provide insights into broad search patterns.

Um... Google Trends just shows the interest (ie people searching for) a keyword... If you wanted to measure the amount of hype being actively generated wouldn't it be a good idea to looking at PR $ spent...? :confused:
 
jæd said:
Um... Google Trends just shows the interest (ie people searching for) a keyword... If you wanted to measure the amount of hype being actively generated wouldn't it be a good idea to looking at PR $ spent...? :confused:

That coupled with column inches are a far better objective indication than expert opinion.
 
Google trends also tracks stories indexed by google news - that's the bottom graph.
 
jæd said:
Um... Google Trends just shows the interest (ie people searching for) a keyword... If you wanted to measure the amount of hype being actively generated wouldn't it be a good idea to looking at PR $ spent...? :confused:
Perhaps you failed to see the second graph detailing the news reference graph?
The iPhone graph towers above everything else. I even commented on that earlier!
Located just beneath our search-volume graph is our news-reference-volume graph. This graph shows you the number of times your topic appeared in Google News stories.
http://www.google.com/trends?q=wii,+ps3,+iphone

:D
 
Kid_Eternity said:
I bet you still have the original Gameboy too?:D

gameboy_originale.jpg
Naaa, I did have the transparent one of those for a time, but parted with that in 2002.
 
jæd said:
Handy explanation here ( http://www.google.com/intl/en/trends/about.html#6 )... If only we could have a expert on product launches to tell us what it all meant...! :D
That #6 is talking about the region/country charts, which are about searches.

The News graph clearly shows a big spike, twice as high as the wii and ps3 ever gets. And that graph (and I quote!)

shows you the number of times your topic appeared in Google News stories. When Google Trends detects a spike in the volume of news stories for a particular term, it labels the graph and displays the headline of an automatically selected Google News story written near the time of that spike. Currently, only English-language headlines are displayed, but we hope to support non-English headlines in the future.

Google news indexes 1000's of news sources and high traffic blogs. It is a pretty reliable measure of the (internet) press exposure of a keyword.
 
jæd said:
Handy explanation here ( http://www.google.com/intl/en/trends/about.html#6 )... If only we could have a expert on product launches to tell us what it all meant...! :D
You're getting really tedious now and I can see why another poster got really pissed off with you recently. Why are you always trying to make it personal and score cheap points over such trivial matters?

What are you hoping to achieve with your sneering "expert on product launches" jibe?
The fact remains that I was proved 100% correct. Sorry if you don't like that fact, but there you go.
 
What's also interesting to note, just note, is that Apple actually hasn't spent a great deal of cash on publicising this device, not really - there's been little ads spend anywhere - the media machine (and the company's press bunnies) have achieved something perhaps even more miraculous (seeming) than multi-touch - they have generated an unyielding stream of media reports, for the cost of some phone calls and the odd little pre-release rumour.
They probably spent more advertising iPod/iTunes in recent months, - McCartney can't have come cheap, after all.
There's probably a book in Apple marketing as a reference bible for other marketeers, if anyone could be bothered writing it (unless it is already writ).
 
editor said:
You're getting really tedious now and I can see why another poster got really pissed off with you recently. Why are you always trying to make it personal and score cheap points over such trivial matters?

What are you hoping to achieve with your sneering "expert on product launches" jibe?
The fact remains that I was proved 100% correct. Sorry if you don't like that fact, but there you go.

Oops... After thinking about my recent points I can appreciate where they were more personal than the topic allowed... Sorry about that. :( I will tone it down in future... :( Please feel free to delete them...! :(
 
I stand corrected, O2 is going to launch it by Xmas, I'll be due an upgrade by then, so will be midly interested, but it looks far to wide for me.

I like the form factor I have with the K800i so its probably going to be a K810i. The lack of decent 3G connectivity is a killer blow to the iPhone for me. Then there is the rubbish camera, and the keyboard is a bit rubbish according the to guy on the BBC.

Its 1/2 way there but looks like a rushed product. The multi touch screen is a nice idea, but nice ideas don't make great product.

I'll be more interested in the revised version.
 
Kid_Eternity said:

Yeah so now it looks like VOdafone lucked out (or pulled back) and its like this:

Germany T Mobile
France Orange
UK O2

This is out the times, FT and so on - naturally nothing yet confirmed.

I still anticipate a 3G model for Europe, I'd be less interested in Edge alone.
 
rocketman said:
Germany T Mobile
France Orange
UK O2
Has o2 got a cheapo unlimited data deal at the moment like T-Mobile's? If not, I guess they'll have to introduce one in double quick time for the iPhone.
 
editor said:
Has o2 got a cheapo unlimited data deal at the moment like T-Mobile's? If not, I guess they'll have to introduce one in double quick time for the iPhone.
AT&T were pretty much forced to make one. Can't imagine Apple will let the european carriers get away with less either.

And I imagine it will be 3G - Edge isn't as widely deployed over here.
 
editor said:
Has o2 got a cheapo unlimited data deal at the moment like T-Mobile's? If not, I guess they'll have to introduce one in double quick time for the iPhone.

Nope, their data deals are shite, the main reason I left them for T Mobile.
 
editor said:
Has o2 got a cheapo unlimited data deal at the moment like T-Mobile's? If not, I guess they'll have to introduce one in double quick time for the iPhone.

Yeah I'd consider this likely. Whether it happens or not is another thing, but without unlimited data access the phone is gonna be useless - people won't ever want to use a data feature cos it costs 'em.

Anyway, O2 are denying things now. I reckon they are all in final stage meetings with Apple, and Apple is playing em all off agin each other.

Maybe...
 
rocketman said:
Yeah I'd consider this likely. Whether it happens or not is another thing, but without unlimited data access the phone is gonna be useless - people won't ever want to use a data feature cos it costs 'em.
Yep. A reasonable unlimited data deal is absolutely essential for the iPhone in the UK.
 
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