Apple iPhone

[Crispy]

It's nothing spooky - perfectly valid MP3 format.
And no, normal CD players don't play MP3s

 

[Kid_Eternity]

*waggles hand*

I reckon the wii and the ps3 generated similar levels of froth

Yep. That said I'm not sure what measurement criteria the Ed is using?

 

[Structaural]

*still a bit ignorant

What do you use to convert the VBR MP3s?
And do they play on ordinary CD players?

LAME encoder or iTunes built in (I tend to use that for convenience) but most rippers will do it, it's been around for ages but it hogs the processor more.

Depends on the player I would think.

 

[rocketman]

Yeah there has been an awful lot of pre-release hype, but right now it looks like the 700,000 early US adopters are (in the main) quite happy.

3G iPhone for Europe? I say definitely. Edge isn't the same here, and the telcos are desperate to make cash back on the networks they invested in.

Pssst: whispers are Apple went with Edge in US because AT&T wanted them to, not power drain problems at all.

Vodafone and T-Mobile both offer 3G modems for Macs, so they have some experience of OS X, suggests they'll clinch the deal.

Not many people know this, but Apple had a device - a phone - they planned to announce around two years ago. Plans were highly advanced - they even had web pages and product marketing stuff ready to go, but two days before launch the plan was moth-balled. Not sure what relevance that is to anything, but it's one of those semi-factoids to spin around.

 

[jæd]

and all my own rips: 320bps VBR. I guess the ARM processor in it can't cope.

I'd guess a future version of the iPhone will be able... AFAIK iPods do...

 

[jæd]

This is also quite interesting, I think - sure it's fanboy territory, but this guy's got it sussed kind of, in a join the dots kind of way. Think of the iPhone as a thin client computer with OS X integration, add a touch of Leopard's Back to My Mac, and you have something quite interesting here. (If you really want to go to town, you could consider the web version of Photoshop that Adobe's been working on recently). Please don't forget I'm a prize fantasist.
Anyway, the link
http://iphonehints.com/story/commen...pples-roadmap-general-purpose-computer-known-

Thats actually one of the more intelligent and original takes on the iPhone, and perhaps one of the most accurate (in terms of Apple's strategy...(

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Not many people know this, but Apple had a device - a phone - they planned to announce around two years ago. Plans were highly advanced - they even had web pages and product marketing stuff ready to go, but two days before launch the plan was moth-balled. Not sure what relevance that is to anything, but it's one of those semi-factoids to spin around.

Why was it canned?

 

[editor]

It's nothing spooky - perfectly valid MP3 format.
And no, normal CD players don't play MP3s

I mean when you burn them to CDs.

 

[Crispy]

I mean when you burn them to CDs.

Well, yes
They're really nothing special.

 

[editor]

Yep. That said I'm not sure what measurement criteria the Ed is using?

Apart from the fact that I work in the biz and that's been my personal observation, it's been pretty much acknowledged that the iPhone is one of the most - if not the most - hyped electronic gizmos ever.

Certainly Engadget - which I believe is the most the most popular consumer electronics site - has never carried so much content on a single product launch before, and CNet described it as "the most hyped device in gadget history" and "The most-hyped gadget in world history."

 

[editor]

Not sure what relevance that is to anything, but it's one of those semi-factoids to spin around.

I like spinning semi factoids.

 

[Crispy]

http://www.google.com/trends?q=wii,+ps3,+iphone

You're right.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Apart from the fact that I work in the biz and that's been my personal observation, it's been pretty much acknowledged that the iPhone is one of the most - if not the most - hyped electronic gizmos ever.

Certainly Engadget - which I believe is the most the most popular consumer electronics site - has never carried so much content on a single product launch before, and CNet described it as "the most hyped device in gadget history" and "The most-hyped gadget in world history."

You work in the console biz? Also, without data showing column inches it's just your 'expert' opinion.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

T Mobile are denying a deal has been done: link

According to reports in German newspaper Rheinische Post, T-Mobile was about to announce a deal with Apple over the Apple iPhone Europe contract , but the mobile operator is saying this isn't the case.

"We have no information about such a deal," a spokeswoman for T-Mobile in the UK said when we contacted the firm this morning.

 

[Structaural]

I suppose because it taps into the two 'fetishistic' and must have items of current technology, MP3 players and mobile phones. I think it'll sell rather well in Japan.

 

[Crispy]

I suppose because it taps into the two 'fetishistic' and must have items of current technology, MP3 players and mobile phones. I think it'll sell rather well in Japan.

Which so far has ignored the ipod.

 

[rocketman]

Why was it canned?

Nothing but secrets there. No one can tell me. It wasn't as radical as this iPhone, though.

Jony (Ive) has been dreaming of designing a phone for about five years, at least five years. he really hates current phones - feature-packed but with rubbish and counter-inuitive interfaces (sure there are xceptions, Palm knows how to build better interfaces, as you'd expect from a bunch of ex-Apple execs). He got quite het up about mobiles a few years back, but there's a story there too.

 

[Structaural]

Which so far has ignored the ipod.

Is it? What's the big seller over there?

 

[jæd]

Apart from the fact that I work in the biz...

And which "biz" would that be, then...? And what would be your role. Because at the moment the only results I see for your name are as a journalist...

 

[rocketman]

Is it? What's the big seller over there?

Sony and Samsung, I believe

 

[Crispy]

Is it? What's the big seller over there?

Hmm, I think I made that one up, or have it confused with another product/country. my bad.

 

[editor]

And which "biz" would that be, then...?

Err, I write about new product launches which I'd say puts me in a position to make an observation about a, err, new product launch.

 

[editor]

You work in the console biz? Also, without data showing column inches it's just your 'expert' opinion.

FFS: I've backed up my opinion that the iPhone is one of the most hyped product launches ever by referencing some of the biggest technology sites out there.

If you think they're wrong, write to them instead of trying to have a go at me.

 

[editor]

http://www.google.com/trends?q=wii,+ps3,+iphone

You're right.

I'm surprised to see just how high the news reference volume went, to be honest. It dwarfs all before it!

 

[Tom A]

What does this iPhone do that most other modern phones don't? Probably not much, and what it does do is probably inferior to the competition.

Me? I still yet to get into the 3G age, my phone has no camera, and it's only since last year since I have been using Windows XP (since I got a new computer), just before they stated hyping Vista...

 

[Kid_Eternity]

FFS: I've backed up my opinion that the iPhone is one of the most hyped product launches ever by referencing some of the biggest technology sites out there.

If you think they're wrong, write to them instead of trying to have a go at me.

I'm not 'having a go at you' I really don't understand why you take things so personally sometimes. I just said I don't see any objective data, provide it otherwise I'll take your opinion as just that an opinion.

 

[jæd]

Err, I write about new product launches which I'd say puts me in a position to make an observation about a, err, new product launch.

I bow before your superior knowledge of, um, "product launches"....

 

[Crispy]

What does this iPhone do that most other modern phones don't? Probably not much, and what it does do is probably inferior to the competition.

Some of what it does is vastly superior. Some of what it does isn't quite as good. Some stuff it doesn't do that other devices already do. It looks and feels and operates beautifully. It's overpriced.

This is exactly how you could describe the 1st generation ipod.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

What does this iPhone do that most other modern phones don't? Probably not much, and what it does do is probably inferior to the competition.

Me? I still yet to get into the 3G age, my phone has no camera, and it's only since last year since I have been using Windows XP (since I got a new computer), just before they stated hyping Vista...

I bet you still have the original Gameboy too?

 

[jæd]

Which so far has ignored the ipod.

Yes... I would guess the iPhone probably won't be that big there (not sure it would TBH) but its always strange what does take off there compared to here. Personally I thought Japanese phones were a bit clunky but I think that was the style at the time...