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Crispy said:
says who?
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It's not in the states, it's a slower service equiv. to 2.5G, I doubt if they'd get away with that in Europe.


Here's a list of negative things about the iPhone (C&P):

• The mobile version of OS X or whatever it is the iPhone runs takes up 700MB of the device’s capacity. Damn son!
• There’s no way to cut, copy, or paste text! WHOA! Big, big mistake.
• No A2DP support. That, friends, is such a huge bummer right there.
• Sorry, music can’t be used as a ringtone — even if it’s just a raw MP3. No additional ringtones will be sold at launch.
• On a PC the iPhone syncs with Outlook for calendars AND addresses! Noice.
• It supports Exchange in some capacity, according to Walt, but he doesn’t exactly say how.
• Pogue again confirms document file reading — but not editing — for PDF, Word, and Excel (only).
• Adobe Flash support is officially out. It’s just not in the browser. Neither is there any other kind of embedded video support. Sorry everybody, that’s that.
• It will take snaps, but won’t record video. How can Apple love YouTube as much as it does and not realize cellphone-shot movies make up a sizeable chunk of the crazy crap you find on there?
• Oh, and no MMS. And sorry, no voice dialing, either.
• Contact groups can’t be emailed as contact lists.
• Apple sez between 300-400 charges the iPhone will lose battery capacity — you’ll send it in and get the cell replaced for a fee. Meh. We knew this would be the case, but still, meh.
• Apple can (and supposedly will) be rolling out periodic updates — no surprise there.
• Battery life is, somehow, almost as mind-blowingly good as Apple claims for calls, music, and movies.
• As we suspected, users are prompted with lists of WiFi networks if you’re not nearby a trusted hotspot. We’ve seen this on other phones, and we’re afraid this would get friggin annoying.
• It’s said to be very scratch resistant. The facade both front and rear apparently just doesn’t pick up marring like regular iPods do.
• Voice quality is said to be good — not great.
 
I'm really finding it hard to see what the point of the iphone is, from what I've read it's a crap phone, but with a funky interface.

Anyone care to enlighten me?
 
That's not a list of negative points, just a list of points :confused: Although some - no C'n'P, no Flash, no video and no user battery are the big ones, IMO. Cnp and video will most likely come in future software, Flash is up to Adobe. The nonreplaceable battery sucks though

And seeing as O2's network has no EDGE at all, I wouldn't be surprised if the UK version is 3G. The US version went for EDGE because 3G coverage is so patchy over there.
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
I'm really finding it hard to see what the point of the iphone is, from what I've read it's a crap phone, but with a funky interface.

Anyone care to enlighten me?
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It's a decent phone with a (nearly) fantastic interface, designed for those who found email/web too complex or not even interesting on their phone before. It's like the ipod - purposefully simplify the features and streamline the interface to make it easy to use, then wrap it up in sexy design.
 
Crispy said:
It's a decent phone with a (nearly) fantastic interface, designed for those who found email/web too complex or not even interesting on their phone before. It's like the ipod - purposefully simplify the features and streamline the interface to make it easy to use, then wrap it up in sexy design.
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So, like most apple products, technology for stupid people ;) :D
 
I don't know, most of the reviews I've read in the mainstream press have been pretty gushing, the geeks sites slightly more varied. But there again many of those same geek sites were the same ones who thought that the ipod would never take off.

What's clear is that, in its first attempt, Apple's pretty much raised the bar for consistent interface design on phones. Maybe a fresh start helped, but some of the changes although minor (being able to arrange/listen to voice mail messages in non-linear order etc) have made a difference - in fact so much so that you wonder why many of the long term phone manufacturers hadn't got off their arses and made more convincing usability improvements themselves.

As a first stab it's a pretty impressive achievement. Given how fast the ipod and competitiors have matured and improved over the years, it bodes pretty well for future phones. No longer should we be plagued by dodgily interfaced phones with ok central functions but a load of inconsistent tat and tacked-on applications on the side.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
You mean normal people not geeks/nerds.:p
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IF ( person.understandJava )
person.setStatus(geek);
else
person.setStatus(idiot);

(Oh the bitter irony of getting syntax wrong :D)

(
Or the slightly nicer onliner:
person.setstatus(person.understandJava?geek:idiot);
Not sure it'd work though :confused:
)
 
Dask said:
Or technology for people that can't be arsed with technology
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That's the one.

My mum worked her ipod and itunes first time, straight out of the box and that's the first time that's EVER happened. Usually it ends up with me being tech support down the phone.
 
Yep same opinion here. My dad got his first computer 3 years back at the age of 60. Despite his best efforts at surfing dodgy sites, dragging system files to the the trash and generally fucking everything possible, the aged emac he has still hasn't a day of downtime. That's a really great achievement as far as I'm concerned, one worthy of praise rather than sneery jibes - I'm actually proud of my old man (and gratefully to the mac)

And seeing how a hefty proportion of professional music and tv production (2 years ago it was still hovering around the 80% mark) still occurs on macs, there are an awful lot of thick creative people out who need the help. Interestingly one of Apple's (comparatively) biggest growth areas of late has been amongst scientific and geek/alternative OS nerds, with a healthy re-growth of architects as well. The market's widening again.
 
iPhone is feature packed phone for people who don't want to spend ages learning how it works.

I imagine that the model that ships in Europe will be a little more streamlined for European needs - they have a few months to achieve this.

The O2 rumour combined with that network's lack of Edge pretty much confirms 3G support for the European model. But with Apple, nothing's ever set in stone until things ship.
 
Structaural said:
Here's a list of negative things about the iPhone (C&P):

• The mobile version of OS X or whatever it is the iPhone runs takes up 700MB of the device’s capacity. Damn son!.......
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-If you miss-type a contact you can't move the cursor to mid-word and correct, you have to delete the whole thing
-my iPod doesn't fit into the same dock
-I don't seem to be able to get it to synch with my .mac address book, only with the one on the desk top


but I love my iPhone :D
 
Apple is helped by the fact that one of its main competitors - Windows Mobile - ships with an absolute dog's dinner of a fiddly interface with all the user friendliness of Windoze 3.1.

Mind you, Apple have been quick to nab some of the Treo's best ideas, with the iPhone sporting both threaded SMS and a hardware sound off button.

These are absolute essentials so it's a bit of a mystery why most Windows phones didn't get around to including them after such a long time.
 
Bob_the_lost said:
IF ( person.understandJava )
person.setStatus(geek);
else
person.setStatus(idiot);

(Oh the bitter irony of getting syntax wrong :D)

(
Or the slightly nicer onliner:
person.setstatus(person.understandJava?geek:idiot);
Not sure it'd work though :confused:
)
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The ternary operator is structured in exactly the same way as if/then/else.

So it would be:

person.understandJava ? person.setStatus(geek) : person.setStatus(idiot)

In other words:

condition ? action if true : action if false
 
rocketman said:
The O2 rumour combined with that network's lack of Edge pretty much confirms 3G support for the European model. But with Apple, nothing's ever set in stone until things ship.
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Fanboy-central said:
I was visiting an AT&T company store while vacationing (I won't say where) and made friends with the AT&T representative while talking to her and one of her customers about Apple, the iPod and iPhone. The representative and I both know 3G is the way to go, but Apple went with the older version instead. Shame on Apple, but the representative advised me that we'd see a 3G phone at Christmas this year 2007 and mentioned that they were not supposed to talk to customers about that. That kind of goes along with the Apple hardware refresh with a almost six month refresh. So who knows. I like the iPhone, but it's where I need it to be yet. I won't leave my current smart phone without some important things like SPEED, Phone as Modem w/ USB, etc. Hurry up Apple!!!
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See : http://macslash.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/04/0313240&mode=thread
 
editor said:
Apple is helped by the fact that one of its main competitors - Windows Mobile - ships with an absolute dog's dinner of a fiddly interface with all the user friendliness of Windoze 3.1.

Mind you, Apple have been quick to nab some of the Treo's best ideas, with the iPhone sporting both threaded SMS and a hardware sound off button.

These are absolute essentials so it's a bit of a mystery why most Windows phones didn't get around to including them after such a long time.
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Not really a straight comparison.. Windows Mobile is for the business market, iPhone is for the consumer market. My HTC Trinity does a lot more than the iPhone.
 
ChrisFilter said:
Not really a straight comparison.. Windows Mobile is for the business market, iPhone is for the consumer market. My HTC Trinity does a lot more than the iPhone.
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I've no doubt that both Palm and Windows phones can currently do a lot more that the iPhone, but you're quite wrong to insist that Windows Mobile is only aimed at the business user.

There's been a host of WM releases bigging up non-business multimedia features like MP3 players, video playback, cameras and other gizmos, and Microsoft has a whole section describing how you can play hard with your WM handset.
 
ChrisFilter said:
Not really a straight comparison.. Windows Mobile is for the business market, iPhone is for the consumer market. My HTC Trinity does a lot more than the iPhone.
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Personally I'd say that Blackberry is for business users and Windows Mobile is for the tech user... Apple is firmly in the consumer market...
 
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