Antic (Dogstar owners) opening Effra Social, a new family pub next to Hootananny
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Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
Yeah I know the place - at the end of Wolfington Road. Sort of commercial/office building. They had a sign up a while ago saying 'opening soon' but it never happened. I kind of thought they might go after the Norwood Hotel or the Horns Tavern, neither of which ever seem particularly busy.
gaijingirl
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they've been asking residents for ideas. the natwest which has just shut down was suggested but apparently it's not what they're after.
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
There was an empty pub near the bus garage which I went to a few squat parties in a few years ago...not sure if it's still there though.
always thought that might be squatted. know just where you mean.
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
i am surprised the place under discussion (effra club) has not been squatted
Rushy
basically a scrotum
It looks deserted but it has been in daily use as offices I think. I met the guy who works there.
gaijingirl
Well-Known Member
The Gipsy Queen (or similar?)
Sirena
Don't monkey with the buzzsaw
They've got 4 now when what used to be A Bar Too Far on Tooting Broadway reopens. Mind you, this one is a joint project and it's not going to be a pub but a cake shop/bakery. And then they have right to develop the land where Broadway Studios is, just up from the Broadway.
And they also have the very nice Balham Bowls Club and, now, the Blithe
Spirit on Balham High Road.
They have put some nice pubs back into Tooting and Balham.
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
No idea what it was called - sorry!
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
Their website lists (and pictures) all their pubs.
gaijingirl
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he's talking about a squatted pub (which some people have suggested might make a good Antic pub), not a current Antic pub.
Went to an Antic pub last week, over Brockley way. It was to catch up with a good mate, so somewhere where you can get a seat and hold a conversation (and have decent ales on tap) was what was wanted. The antic place ticked the boxes, I liked it.
Wonder what they'd have in mind for the effra road spot?
Wonder what they'd have in mind for the effra road spot?
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
Still, I like the look of their range and am rather excited.
gaijingirl
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gaijingirl
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certainly seems dead whenever I go past. Shame.
Frumious B.
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I heard that "the rich guy who owns the Dogstar" owns Clifton Mansions. Can anyone confirm?
editor
hiraethified
News to me but I'll ask around.
Frumious B.
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Also heard that he bought the building between Clifton Mansions and Bookmongers and wants to open a bar/restaurant in the former clothes shop/Brixton Cycles on the ground floor. The residents in the flats above had to move out a couple of weeks ago.
Elgar
1857–1934
editor
hiraethified
The perisistent rumour for that building is that it's going to be a Brew Dog bar. I hope not.
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
What would you rather it be?
Rushy
basically a scrotum
No. Lexadon own Clifton. Antic have the Dog Star.
editor
hiraethified
Well, I'd love the bike shop back but that isn't going to happen. I don't think that stretch of Coldharbour Lane needs another bar, to be honest.
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
What it needs is a ... phone shop!
editor
hiraethified
They're the new nail bar!
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
435-437 Coldharbour Lane looks like a mixture of both:
The planning history shows plans for a bar on ground floor and basement from A Thomas (Antic) being approved: 10/02057/FUL (Application Permitted)
On the other hand A Thomas' application for flats above was refused a couple of months later: 10/02846/DET Received: Tue 17 Aug 2010 Status: Application Refused
HOWEVER there are currently plans in from Lexadon for this site 12/02837 FUL Received: Fri 27 Jul 2012 Status: Pending Decision.
Lexadon's plans are broadly to demolish the upper stories and create a frontage matching in with Clifton Mansions - in so far as this is possible in vernacular "Viaduct"/Brixton Square style - with 9 flats on 1st/2nd/3rd floors - the new facade matching Clifton Mansions height-wise.
Lexadon say "this application is cognisant of, but not directly linked to 10/02057/FUL (Antic's bar proposals). Lexadon do not say whether they favour a bar or not.
The Lexadon application was advertised a couple of weeks ago in the "Weekender"
(As well as Clifton Mansions, Lexadon also own the Angel ex-Pub and "The Viaduct" - to name just their Coldharbour Lane properties).
You don't have to own a property to apply for planning permission. This proposal could be a combined Antic/Lexadon proposition. Lexadon obviously have the resources to do the development whether jointly or on their own.
Final point - I would have thought it might be difficult to challenge this proposal on Conservation area grounds - Lexadon have done their usual thorough job with a 30 page design statement which alludes to 435-437 Coldhabrour Lane being an ‘Enhancement Opportunity’ and then listing all the surrounding applications going back years. Objecting to losing the 1930s existing building (allegedly in poor state of repair) would seem unlikely to resonate with Lambeth Planners when the Satay Bar and flats above in bland modern style were approved 15+ years ago and a hotel on top of the Woolworths building was approved in July (no sign of building starting yet though!)
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