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This type of entertainment is really very harmful to children's development. Urban children generally don't need more flashing lights and exciting 'entertainment' given to them. They need thoughtful, interested adults to be a part of their lives. A hour in the park looking for worms will do them much more good.

see for instance http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toxic-Childhood-Modern-Damaging-Children/dp/0752880918
 
This type of entertainment is really very harmful to children's development. Urban children generally don't need more flashing lights and exciting 'entertainment' given to them. They need thoughtful, interested adults to be a part of their lives. A hour in the park looking for worms will do them much more good.

see for instance http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toxic-Childhood-Modern-Damaging-Children/dp/0752880918
Kids have danced together since the beginning of time. It's even better if their parents are joining in.
 
Why can't there be dancing and time in the park?

It was our school disco last week and our kids loved it. We also spent plenty of time last week at the swings and in the park.
 
Agreed, so why do they need all this? It's a commercialisation of childhood. Kids don't need it: they need love.
I'm going to agree with this to a degree. Music and dancing are important culturally and socially and it goes on in most societies organically. One thing I think is negative is the use of "cool" in several places in the publicity. I've witnessed kids who are friends with mine getting bullied because they are seen as uncool, mostly because of lack of cash or because the parents are not from a groovy western background or both, I hope the use of the word "cool" is only there to appeal to certain types of aspirational parent and not to kids cos in today's world the last thing we need is more "them/us".
 
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Agreed, so why do they need all this?

It's a commercialisation of childhood. Kids don't need it: they need love.
Because (a) the kids enjoy it and (b) the parents enjoy it and (c) sometimes it's a nice break to have the entertainment provided for parents
 
here's a humbug for Pinggoombah

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This event is my idea of hell. But I am a po-faced Puritan.

As a childless 40 something, I concur - you'd have to pay me a million dollars to get me in there!

However, what about us lot?? Can't they do a Big Fish Bigger Fish for us oldsters who can't cope with a late night party - an afternoon boogie sounds perfect!! Home early with a nice cup of tea and a hot water bottle!
 
As a childless 40 something, I concur - you'd have to pay me a million dollars to get me in there!

However, what about us lot?? Can't they do a Big Fish Bigger Fish for us oldsters who can't cope with a late night party - an afternoon boogie sounds perfect!! Home early with a nice cup of tea and a hot water bottle!

Distant Planet were doing afternoon raves recently. Moronik could tell you more I think.
 
i'm not going back to another baby rave, but that is purely for my own mental health rather than because i think it would harm my child's.
 
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