Anti-Japanese sentiment in Asia

[Jay Park]

I doubt it
You seem to me to be a man who is consists almost completely of cock
once per year at a min in the case of the Japanese PM
You will be more familiar with your own activities and should be able to work out the ratio
As for who was or was not a war criminal hard to tell in the huge wave of slaughter Japan unleashed

R. J. Rummel, a professor of political science at the University of Hawaii, estimates that between 1937 and 1945, the Japanese military murdered from nearly 3 to over 10 million people, most likely 6 million Chinese, Indonesians, Koreans, Filipinos and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war. According to Rummel, "This democide [i.e., death by government] was due to a morally bankrupt political and military strategy, military expediency and custom, and national culture."[59] According to Rummel, in China alone, during 1937–45, approximately 3.9 million Chinese were killed, mostly civilians, as a direct result of the Japanese operations and 10.2 million in the course of the war.[60] The most infamous incident during this period was the Nanking Massacre of 1937–38, when, according to the findings of the International Military Tribunal for the Far East, the Japanese Army massacred as many as 300,000 civilians and prisoners of war, although the accepted figure is somewhere in the hundreds of thousands.[61]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes

Caption is :- Chinese prisoners being buried alive.

I shall not reply to you again as I regard you as a Troll

gruesome stuff..... You mention the Philippines and Indonesia also,why is there a marked difference between the way these two countries talk about the wave of slaughter unleashed by Japanese expansion and the regularity of such discussions when compared with China? I'd also like you ask you to give me your definition of a troll please, then i'll be off to bobo's.

 

[Jay Park]

without trying to introduce a level of infantilism to an Urban75 thread - heaven forfend!!!!
2 wrongs do not make a right
Neither event is right
Together they just make things worse

I just lazily plucked this post from another thread which I can use to add weight to my arguement here........ Also interested to know which part of HK you grew up in.

 

[Jay Park]

And I'm suggesting the opposite: that the collective thought in this case is fertile ground for political tension.

I suggest we stop chipping away at the semantics

 

[Jay Park]

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/64975/jennifer-lind/the-perils-of-apology

 

[Jay Park]

"The South Koreans have worried about a militarily resurgent Japan since the end of World War II. Early on, South Korean leaders implored U.S. officials not to rearm Japan for fear that it would again attempt to dominate the Korean Peninsula. The public shared this distrust, associating the Japanese with militarism and colonial abuse. In a 1982 poll, only ten percent of South Korean respondents viewed Japan as "a friendly country." Such sentiment has not faded: in contemporary surveys, South Koreans continue to rank Japan as one of the countries they like the least, and between 40 and 60 percent of respondents typically identify Japan as South Korea's next security threat."

 

[Dandred]

South Koreans are mental about the Japanese, despite them being their closest alley.

Mostly whipped up by the government, the schools here seem to brainwash the kids to be anti Japanese.

Very sad.

 

[Jay Park]

as that article suggests though, they have a legitimate distrust of Japanese military expansion and worry about a perceived threat to security. No one helped them last time they were annexed by Japan, the British gave their consent in fact. This distrust has obviously manifested itself in to what you describe in your post as anti-Japanese brainwashing. Though are you sure Japan is Korea's closest ally?

 

[Jay Park]

perhaps the most famous and most profound symbol of German contrition

 

[J Ed]

Jay Park aren't you worried that you will upset your fans by talking about these issues?

 

[Dandred]

as that article suggests though, they have a legitimate distrust of Japanese military expansion and worry about a perceived threat to security. No one helped them last time they were annexed by Japan, the British gave their consent in fact. This distrust has obviously manifested itself in to what you describe in your post as anti-Japanese brainwashing. Though are you sure Japan is Korea's closest ally?

Who else in the region is likely to be in the ROKs side if things go off with North Korea? China isn't.

Who do you think is their closest alley?

 

[Jay Park]

Who else in the region is likely to be in the ROKs side if things go off with North Korea? China isn't.

Who do you think is their closest alley?

You know I am not too sure who their closest ally is but I think having a huge base in the middle of their capital City might be a giveaway. The article was talking about the perceived danger, by Korean people of another effort by Japan to expand onto their territory and try to recreate the Eulsa treaty (whether real or imagined). Also I am not too sure things will ever go off with the North, as has previously been discussed on this forum before, the North would expect a large number of their soldiers to mutiny as a result of lack of provisions/resources etc.

There is a political need for maintaining a couple of freakshow Stalinist nations, in order to be able to point the finger and also to drive home that Ayn Rand-Chicago Boys-JP Morgan style capitalism is still the better option. That's why there won't be a ‘war with North Korea.’

and various other reason such as the complete annihilation of the Korean peninsula

 

[Jay Park]

which is a biggy

 

[Dandred]

Closest alley geologically?

 

[Jay Park]

Closest alley geologically?

I thought you might say that, the US has been in that region ever since the fall of the Japanese empire and counts Japan, Korea, Thailand, Phillipines. Indonesia etc as proxy states for geo-political power.

 

[Jay Park]

never miss the 'o' out of counts before you go on to list a load of different Nations..............

 

[Jay Park]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-13748349

 

[Dandred]

Japan and Korea are both supposedly democracies, I would say that puts them closer than another countries in that region.

But then again, Korea has always been fickle and will jump into bed with whoever whenever.

 

[Jay Park]

Japan and Korea are both supposedly democracies, I would say that puts them closer than another countries in that region.

But then again, Korea has always been fickle and will jump into bed with whoever whenever.

thats a rather bold statement, can I ask you to elaborate please.

 

[Dandred]

Depending on who has the biggest sway in the region, the South Koreans bend over backwards to cosy up to them. In the past USA, now China and Russia.

 

[Jay Park]

that is an interesting analogy you make for what is a relatively small country using diplomacy as a means to further its achievements. Kind of like the UK government which is currently bending over forwards for the investment of Chinese money...............

 

[Dandred]

Yea. True. I'm glad you agree with me.

 

[Dandred]

Nice cartoon here illustrates the relationships in the region quite well.

 

[Jay Park]

obscene

 

[Dandred]

obscene

How so?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Japan and Korea are both supposedly democracies, I would say that puts them closer than another countries in that region.

Japan and South Korea are both supposedly democracies in the "western mould", but both still maintain a gloss of authoritarianism. North Korea...well, that's another thing entirely...

But then again, Korea has always been fickle and will jump into bed with whoever whenever.

Bit of a sweeping statement, don't you think? Given Korea's geo-strategic importance throughout the second half of the 19th and all of the 20th century, they haven't really had much choice but to be "promiscuous" in terms of alliances.

 

[seventh bullet]

Not entirely, and with being a bit sweeping myself, the 'Koreas' north and south share an authoritarian tradition and connected to that there's also the experience of Japanese colonialism.

 

[Jay Park]

S Korea a little less authoritarian now than the days of the current Presidents' father, or the US favoured Syngman Rhee. The days of S Korea being run by a strongman started to unravel after a civilian protest was brutally put down in 87.............. I think

 

[Jay Park]

The problem for democracy in Korea now is the power which the huge Chaebol companies such as Samsung, Hyundai etc hold over Government. Though it is their success which is one of the reasons S Korea went from being poorer than the Philippines in the 1960s to the major player it is today.

 

[Dandred]

Major player?

In what sense?

 

[Jay Park]

Seoul is the 3rd wealthiest city in East Asia, GDP is pretty high, they're in the G20 and the standard of living is extremely good. Off topic now