What did antifa do during the recent Euro elections?
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What did antifa do during the recent Euro elections?
Fedayn
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I dunno, but i'm thinking that they, unlike your pals, didn't create the conditions and anger that allowed the BNP to get 1m votes and two MEP's. So any criticisms of antifa that you dribble out would be as nothing to the criticisms of your co-thinkers.
He knows full what ANTIFA are and stand for, just needs to look at there web page..
TremulousTetra
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Pretty crucial video this. Griffin says to KKK x leader Duke and to a meeting of white supremacists " our ideas, which are your ideas too"?
Last meeting griffin and duke? Not sure, but heres 2006, Photo of BNP leader with extremist - News - Manchester Evening News
also;
He clearly explains how he intends to decieve the electorate.
Last meeting griffin and duke? Not sure, but heres 2006, Photo of BNP leader with extremist - News - Manchester Evening News
also;
TremulousTetra
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That is fucked up.
TremulousTetra
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Bnp allow NDP to vist RWB
RevLeft - View Single Post - Berlin Anti-fascists Mobilise Against The NPD.
Of course the NPD aren't Fascist? No they are Nazi. They even had the cheek and ignorance to nominate Rudolf Hess for a peace prize. It speaks volumes that the BNP allowed these people to RWB where they can sell their Nazi paraphernalia like Rudolf Hess posters.
After Nominating Rudolf Hess for Nobel Peace Prize: NPD Leader Charged with Inciting Race Hate - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International
RevLeft - View Single Post - Berlin Anti-fascists Mobilise Against The NPD.
Of course the NPD aren't Fascist? No they are Nazi. They even had the cheek and ignorance to nominate Rudolf Hess for a peace prize. It speaks volumes that the BNP allowed these people to RWB where they can sell their Nazi paraphernalia like Rudolf Hess posters.
After Nominating Rudolf Hess for Nobel Peace Prize: NPD Leader Charged with Inciting Race Hate - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International
TremulousTetra
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in a 1997 booklet entitled Who are the Mind Benders? Griffin outlined a Jewish conspiracy to brainwash the British people in their own "homeland". In 1998, Griffin was found guilty of distributing material likely to incite racial hatred, for which he received a two-year suspended sentence.
get a copy of Who are the Mind Benders? here
this 4 minutes from of all people, Little John, give some hitorical roots on the booklet back to the british union of fascism.
get a copy of Who are the Mind Benders? here
this 4 minutes from of all people, Little John, give some hitorical roots on the booklet back to the british union of fascism.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
All hold hands. All in the game together.
TremulousTetra
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not directly about fascist, but good info to undercut their key arguement.
an immigrants experience of free nothing;
> I'm so tired of people saying that we immigrants have more rights than
> British citizens. People really need to get their facts straight. Do
> we get income support? Nope. Social housing? Nope. The right to vote?
> Nope. Job seeker's benefits? Nope. Pensions? Nope. Free prescriptions?
> Nope. Disability assistance? Nope. Right of movement within the EU?
> Nope. And our British family members and spouses are afraid to take
> advantage of these services and rights, for fear that it might
> jeopardize our visa applications.
>
> Do we pay the same income and property taxes as everyone else? Yep.
> Indirectly support unemployed British people? Yep. Pay repeated
> astronomical fees to renew our visas? Yep.
>
> Assylum seekers may be supported by the state, but that's because it
> is illegal for them to support themselves. They could move on to
> self-sufficiency or go back home a lot easier if the Home Office
> wasn't so apallingly slow in deciding their cases, or if the
> government granted them the right to seek employment.
>
> /From *archaeomanda* on Tue Jun 09 06:38PM/
> Hello there, I know what you say about asylum seekers is true, and I
> have no reason to disbelieve what you're saying about immigrants. I
> would just like some background information, if you have it.
>
> Are you a specific type of immigrant, or is what you say true for all
> immigrants?
> At what point do immigrants gain full citizens' rights?
> Do you have any evidence to back up what you're saying, on such as
> government websites?
Hi,
Just have a look at the visa requirements on the UK Borders Agency website for the various visa categories and rules. As far as I know, I'm the most common kind of immigrant. I'm sure there are less common categories of immigrants for whom different rules might apply, but I don't really know about them.
I'm American, and I originally came here as a student (requiring a visa). This entitled me to NHS services (but no other benefits) and no more than 20 hours per week employment. I then married a UK citizen, and in order to stay here I had to get another visa (Further Leave to Remain), good for two years, but I can work full time and use the NHS.
When this visa runs out, I will have to apply for either another Further Leave to Remain or an Indefinite Leave to Remain visa. In order to be eligible for the latter, I have to pass the Life in the UK test. With ILR, I will be a permanent resident, but I'm still not entitled to any benefits other than the NHS. In order to get citizen's rights, I have to then apply for citizenship separately. At that point I will be eligible for the same benefits as anyone else.
Hope this helps.
UKBA: http://ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/ukresidency/eligibility/
http://ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/policyandlaw/immigrationlaw/immigrationrules/introduction/
an immigrants experience of free nothing;
> I'm so tired of people saying that we immigrants have more rights than
> British citizens. People really need to get their facts straight. Do
> we get income support? Nope. Social housing? Nope. The right to vote?
> Nope. Job seeker's benefits? Nope. Pensions? Nope. Free prescriptions?
> Nope. Disability assistance? Nope. Right of movement within the EU?
> Nope. And our British family members and spouses are afraid to take
> advantage of these services and rights, for fear that it might
> jeopardize our visa applications.
>
> Do we pay the same income and property taxes as everyone else? Yep.
> Indirectly support unemployed British people? Yep. Pay repeated
> astronomical fees to renew our visas? Yep.
>
> Assylum seekers may be supported by the state, but that's because it
> is illegal for them to support themselves. They could move on to
> self-sufficiency or go back home a lot easier if the Home Office
> wasn't so apallingly slow in deciding their cases, or if the
> government granted them the right to seek employment.
>
> /From *archaeomanda* on Tue Jun 09 06:38PM/
> Hello there, I know what you say about asylum seekers is true, and I
> have no reason to disbelieve what you're saying about immigrants. I
> would just like some background information, if you have it.
>
> Are you a specific type of immigrant, or is what you say true for all
> immigrants?
> At what point do immigrants gain full citizens' rights?
> Do you have any evidence to back up what you're saying, on such as
> government websites?
Hi,
Just have a look at the visa requirements on the UK Borders Agency website for the various visa categories and rules. As far as I know, I'm the most common kind of immigrant. I'm sure there are less common categories of immigrants for whom different rules might apply, but I don't really know about them.
I'm American, and I originally came here as a student (requiring a visa). This entitled me to NHS services (but no other benefits) and no more than 20 hours per week employment. I then married a UK citizen, and in order to stay here I had to get another visa (Further Leave to Remain), good for two years, but I can work full time and use the NHS.
When this visa runs out, I will have to apply for either another Further Leave to Remain or an Indefinite Leave to Remain visa. In order to be eligible for the latter, I have to pass the Life in the UK test. With ILR, I will be a permanent resident, but I'm still not entitled to any benefits other than the NHS. In order to get citizen's rights, I have to then apply for citizenship separately. At that point I will be eligible for the same benefits as anyone else.
Hope this helps.
UKBA: http://ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/ukresidency/eligibility/
http://ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/policyandlaw/immigrationlaw/immigrationrules/introduction/
TremulousTetra
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The NAZI Roots of the BNP.
British National Party Now led by Griffin
up to 2006 was Mick Holmes.
Former leader John Tyndall
bnp was a split from National Front at one point led by Arthur K. Chesterton [see below].
nf was a split Greater Britain Movement
GBR split from National Socialist Movement
GBR was a split from British National Party (1960)
BNP was formed from a merger of the National Labour Party and the White Defence League, which two political splinter groups from the League of Empire Loyalists led by Arthur K. Chesterton, a former leading figure in the British Union of Fascists, who had served under Oswald Mosley.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Oh come on! Of what use is this? Other than to be ale to shout Nazi by some convoluted family tree?
This is arse backwards, you've decided to shout Nazi, that it's effective and then try and find ways to justify doing so. The orignal assumption is never questioned, nor more effective means examined.
This is arse backwards, you've decided to shout Nazi, that it's effective and then try and find ways to justify doing so. The orignal assumption is never questioned, nor more effective means examined.
TremulousTetra
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contribute in a better way then.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
To what? To bolster the same failed agenda as outlined in the OP? Why would i do that? The whoel approach of the thread is poltically fucked, it's asking people to contribute to helping the same failed approach. Bin the thread, bin this approach.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Does anyone know if the 'ex-marxists for Griffin' group still exists?There was that ex IMG fella from Lancashire and some ex CPers if I remember rightly.
TremulousTetra
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well just ignore the thread you attention seeking self centered little twot.
butchersapron
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That would be political cowardice.
TremulousTetra
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TremulousTetra
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Griffin is not just a fascist, he is a political prostitute of the worst kind. For example;
Everyone knows Griffin was grossly anti Semitic. Writing a book The Mind Benders, giving detail to how he believed a Jewish conspiracy was running Britain. He was convicted for inciting racial hatred. But hand in hand with his anti Semitism, came an admiration for Muslims.
After his faction took control of the NF, they met with representatives of Colonel Gaddafi’s regime through the Libyan People’s Bureau in London, and expressed support for Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini. Rank and File members of the NF were not too pleased when Griffin, in 1985, praised the black separatist Louis Farrakhan: "White nationalists everywhere wish (Farrakhan) well, for we share a common struggle for the same ends: Racial Separation and Racial Freedom".
During this period, Griffin and other NF leaders took an all-expenses paid trip to Libya, as guests of the Gaddafi regime to obtain funding. National Front News wrote at the time: "Common interest must be turned into practical cooperation. Those involved must work to nail the media lies which are used by our enemies to try and divide us and make us afraid to be seen standing side by side with Third Way nations such as Libya and Iran".
This man who is worse than Tony Blair. This man is prepared to sell out any convictions. It doesn't matter who the scapegoat is, as long as he's got one to get himself to power, so he can carry out his true agenda and his true politics. What are they? His words in The Rune showed his real colours. "The electors of Millwall did not back a post-modernist Rightist Party, but what they perceived to be a strong, disciplined organisation with the ability to back up its slogan "Defend Rights for Whites’ with well-directed boots and fists. When the crunch comes, power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate". This is a fascist who will use of force to segregate Britain.
And when he has achieved this, and Britain is still in a mess who will he scapegoat? You and me.
Everyone knows Griffin was grossly anti Semitic. Writing a book The Mind Benders, giving detail to how he believed a Jewish conspiracy was running Britain. He was convicted for inciting racial hatred. But hand in hand with his anti Semitism, came an admiration for Muslims.
After his faction took control of the NF, they met with representatives of Colonel Gaddafi’s regime through the Libyan People’s Bureau in London, and expressed support for Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini. Rank and File members of the NF were not too pleased when Griffin, in 1985, praised the black separatist Louis Farrakhan: "White nationalists everywhere wish (Farrakhan) well, for we share a common struggle for the same ends: Racial Separation and Racial Freedom".
During this period, Griffin and other NF leaders took an all-expenses paid trip to Libya, as guests of the Gaddafi regime to obtain funding. National Front News wrote at the time: "Common interest must be turned into practical cooperation. Those involved must work to nail the media lies which are used by our enemies to try and divide us and make us afraid to be seen standing side by side with Third Way nations such as Libya and Iran".
This man who is worse than Tony Blair. This man is prepared to sell out any convictions. It doesn't matter who the scapegoat is, as long as he's got one to get himself to power, so he can carry out his true agenda and his true politics. What are they? His words in The Rune showed his real colours. "The electors of Millwall did not back a post-modernist Rightist Party, but what they perceived to be a strong, disciplined organisation with the ability to back up its slogan "Defend Rights for Whites’ with well-directed boots and fists. When the crunch comes, power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate". This is a fascist who will use of force to segregate Britain.
And when he has achieved this, and Britain is still in a mess who will he scapegoat? You and me.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Owen alleges Molloy is a plant
TremulousTetra
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Part 1 of a radio documentary about the EDL, BNP, KKK, so-called British Peoples Party (sic) and other right-wing extremists. These groups are currently pursuing a 3-pronged strategy in the UK. The 1st element in their strategy is the electoral politics of the BNP, facilitated by BNP attempts to improve their image by pretending that the BNP is no longer racist or Nazi. In the Euro 2009 election 2 BNP candidates were elected, but 94% of British voters still actively opposed the BNP, and recent BNP by-election results have been disastrous.
The 2nd element in the strategy consists of EDL and SIOE hooligans provoking street fights which the BNP then misrepresent as ethnic violence. EDL and SIOE protests are staged on the pretext of opposing terrorism, by people who did nothing to "defend" Britain after 7/7, who never protest against Nazi terrorists, who have close links with the BNP, and whose supporters show appreciation to a regime that butchered Britons during WW2 by giving Hitler salutes.
The 3rd element in the strategy is the outright terrorism pursued by Mosque arsonists, racist street attackers, and by failed Nazi nail-bombers like BNP candidate Robert Cottage, BNP supporter Nathan Worrell, BNP officials Lambertus Nieuwhof and Tony Lecomber, BNP steward and murderer David Copeland, and by other Nazi nail-bombers like British Peoples Party members Neil Lewington and convicted BPP paedophile Martyn Gilleard.
Since EDL supporters were photographed giving Nazi salutes, the EDL shot a video of EDL supporters in illegal political uniforms (black shirts and paramilitary style balaclavas) burning a Swastika flag to "prove" the EDL aren't Nazis, but the EDL have never had the courage to burn a BNP flag! It also seems the EDL have at least 3 Uncle Toms... err... black supporters and 1 mixed-race supporter, out of an alleged membership of several thousand. General Franco's Fascist army had thousands of black foot-soldiers during the Spanish Civil War, and even Hitler's Luftwaffe used a few black pilots when the Nazis were desperate!
butchersapron
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idiot
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
You want to evidence that up?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
most people would not consider david copeland a failed nazi nailbomber.
even so, the number of 'nazi' nailbombers pales into insignificance when compared with the number of british islamists convicted of terrorist offences and / or trained in jihadi training camps in afghanistan and pakistan. but they're strangely absent from resistancemp3's posts.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i thought that general franco's army was falangist.
TremulousTetra
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this thread had been untouched for about four week, and then within 3 minutes of my new post, you respond with your erudite comments. Are you stalking me?btw, if you actually go to the links, you will see I have just cut and pasted the 'more info'.
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