Another Sainsbury's on Brixton Hill???

[Minnie_the_Minx]

There's 2?
Yeah the one on top of hill on junction.
He's still around there?

No, but as this thread is about Sainsbury's (Allied Carpets), and the shops on that particular stretch of the Hill, it's to be assumed you're talking about that stretch of the Hill when in fact you're talking about the top of the Hill.

As far as I know, he's still around. Don't really take much notice of him to notice to be honest. It's only when I'm actually in a car that I notice as you always wonder whether you're going to get a tap on the window.

 

[Cowley]

Yeah, it's been ok for taxis to come to Brixton for quite a while now

 

[Cowley]

Dunno.
But I got a overstock carpet from there over xmas.
pretty good as it was cheaper than all the other chains.

I miss living around Brixton/ Streatham Hill.

Is that guy still hanging around the traffic lights on the junction?
QUOTE]

Yes he is. I think I saw him last week, maybe Thursday or Friday doing his tapping on the "Car Window Thing".

 

[Cowley]

Dunno.
But I got a overstock carpet from there over xmas.
pretty good as it was cheaper than all the other chains.

I miss living around Brixton/ Streatham Hill.

Is that guy still hanging around the traffic lights on the junction?

Yes he is. I think I saw him last week, maybe Thursday or Friday doing his tapping on the "Car Window Thing".

 

[leanderman]

Allied Carpets is being emptied of, er, carpets today.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Allied Carpets is being emptied of, er, carpets today.

Wonder where all the carpets are going? They could have sold them off cheap (as in, not the normal 50% off, but loads more). I need new carpet

 

[Badgers]

Allied Carpets is being emptied of, er, carpets today.

Are they done then?
I wanted a rug and meant to pop in.

Carpetright are in trouble now too - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...ft-retail-gloom-as-profits-hit-the-floor.html

 

[gaijingirl]

Are they done then?
I wanted a rug and meant to pop in.

Carpetright are in trouble now too - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...ft-retail-gloom-as-profits-hit-the-floor.html

Just big enough for a Waitrose. They could call it Herne Hill Waitrose and make the estate agents trying to shit those expensive new builds at the bottom of Tulse Hill very happy.

 

[Winot]

Just big enough for a Waitrose. They could call it Herne Hill Waitrose and make the estate agents trying to shit those expensive new builds at the bottom of Tulse Hill very happy.

quite right

 

[gaijingirl]

Freudian slit!

 

[gaijingirl]

An Aldi or a Lidl would be helpful tbh..

 

[B-Town]

This is the best news ever. The Nisa is one of the worst Nisa's in the country (official). JS in the centre has rediculous queues and Tesco is a mission just to get an evening meal.

All we need now is a nice little Deli on Tulse Hill!

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

This is the best news ever. The Nisa is one of the worst Nisa's in the country (official). JS in the centre has rediculous queues and Tesco is a mission just to get an evening meal.

All we need now is a nice little Deli on Tulse Hill!

Nisa's fine for a shop that size

 

[B-Town]

Nisa's fine for a shop that size

Really, Nisa is a national buying consortium (it stands for National Independent Shop Association) they have one of the biggest buying powers outside of the big five supermarkets. As such they buy into a number of promotions that they then do not pass on to the customers. Promotional compliance is an important part of being part of a symbol group (such as Nisa, Spar, Costcutter) and Brixton Hill's promotional compliance is suspect.

Plus, the cheese is always moldy! Given they have deliverys twice a week from central distribution, I personally do not think this is acceptable.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Really, Nisa is a national buying consortium (it stands for National Independent Shop Association) they have one of the biggest buying powers outside of the big five supermarkets. As such they buy into a number of promotions that they then do not pass on to the customers. Promotional compliance is an important part of being part of a symbol group (such as Nisa, Spar, Costcutter) and Brixton Hill's promotional compliance is suspect.

Plus, the cheese is always moldy! Given they have deliverys twice a week from central distribution, I personally do not think this is acceptable.

I never actually take much notice of promotions on products in shops like that anyway, only in larger supermarkets

You could always use Costcutter, the one opposite or the one near Blenheim Gardens or the one on the other corner

 

[B-Town]

I never actually take much notice of promotions on products in shops like that anyway, only in larger supermarkets

You could always use Costcutter, the one opposite or the one near Blenheim Gardens or the one on the other corner

The point is, they have the buying power of a large supermarket - they can get the products for a similar price but charge you more. They typically charge 16% more than a supermarket for a product that they buy for say 5% more than a supermarket. If you are coke and offer a 2 for 1 to Nisa, you expect Nisa to offer that to their customers in a way that Asda, Tesco or Sainsburys would. That store chooses not to comply, so effectively ripping you and the supplier off, not only that they are doing the other member of Nisa a disservice, thus suppliers become reluctant to offer the promotions through these stores.

Given that convenience stores usually serve a lower demographic (lack of cars, close to estates etc) what actually happens is that the worst off are cheated the most. And the more mobile in society benefit from promotions that suppliers intend to reach all.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

The point is, they have the buying power of a large supermarket - they can get the products for a similar price but charge you more. They typically charge 16% more than a supermarket for a product that they buy for say 5% more than a supermarket. If you are coke and offer a 2 for 1 to Nisa, you expect Nisa to offer that to their customers in a way that Asda, Tesco or Sainsburys would. That store chooses not to comply, so effectively ripping you and the supplier off, not only that they are doing the other member of Nisa a disservice, thus suppliers become reluctant to offer the promotions through these stores.

Given that convenience stores usually serve a lower demographic (lack of cars, close to estates etc) what actually happens is that the worst off are cheated the most. And the more mobile in society benefit from promotions that suppliers intend to reach all.

Well have you told them that they should be honouring the promotions?

 

[B-Town]

Well have you told them that they should be honouring the promotions?

I have challenged them on a number of things, they are rude, unhelpful and treat their customers with contempt.

I once pulled nine blocks of cheese out of their fridge covered in mold, I suggested these arent going to sell - they just shrugged. I try to avoid this shop at all costs. As part of being a Nisa they get display advice, range advice and merchandising investment. This is what keeps it ahead of the truly independent across the road, but for service I would go their everytime!

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I have challenged them on a number of things, they are rude, unhelpful and treat their customers with contempt.

I once pulled nine blocks of cheese out of their fridge covered in mold, I suggested these arent going to sell - they just shrugged. I try to avoid this shop at all costs. As part of being a Nisa they get display advice, range advice and merchandising investment. This is what keeps it ahead of the truly independent across the road, but for service I would go their everytime!

Tell them you're going to complain to head office if they don't buck their ideas up

 

[B-Town]

Tell them you're going to complain to head office if they don't buck their ideas up

Head office are in a difficult position.

A) there is no head office - it is an association; all central office can do is rebuke their membership - then it becomes a Costcutter not a Nisa
B) in the Symbol store game it is about numbers. Having a store means more buying power, costs of products come down. A store that doesnt comply reduces the likelihood of a supplier being willing to do a promotion. What would you choose? buying power or more promotions?

So they can buy for X because they have 2,000 stores. however suppliers will not offer the promotions because only 70% of stores implement them (so taking the margin for themselves). For the customer, the brand and other retailers this is annoying. But for the other retailers, which is what central office serves, the added buying power of the 30% non compliant stores can be the difference between Nisa getting a better price than a costcutter, Spar or Londis...

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Head office are in a difficult position.

A) there is no head office - it is an association; all central office can do is rebuke their membership - then it becomes a Costcutter not a Nisa
B) in the Symbol store game it is about numbers. Having a store means more buying power, costs of products come down. A store that doesnt comply reduces the likelihood of a supplier being willing to do a promotion. What would you choose? buying power or more promotions?

So they can buy for X because they have 2,000 stores. however suppliers will not offer the promotions because only 70% of stores implement them (so taking the margin for themselves). For the customer, the brand and other retailers this is annoying. But for the other retailers, which is what central office serves, the added buying power of the 30% non compliant stores can be the difference between Nisa getting a better price than a costcutter, Spar or Londis...

I have no idea how these things work for thanks for the explanation

 

[B-Town]

I have no idea how these things work for thanks for the explanation

It's nice to find a topic that I can talk with authority! I never thought being a retail consultant would help me on U75!

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

It's nice to find a topic that I can talk with authority! I never thought being a retail consultant would help me on U75!

I will still shop there though

 

[B-Town]

I will still shop there though

I bet your Nectar card will say different...

 

[supercity]

Can I just say that Costcutter/Nisa's current half-price Ben and Jerry's ice cream deal (£2.34/500ml) is making me very happy? And fat.

Oh, and Allied Carpets is now empty. It's going to be big by Sainsbury's Local standards, judging by existing floor and storage space.

 

[B-Town]

Costcutter are currently part of the Nisa buying group so they can benefit from all the same promotion but do not have to conform to promotional compliance.

This is why their stores have less investment in shelving and display. A good costcutter is more admirable than an average Nisa.

That said, BH costcutter is not that great...

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I bet your Nectar card will say different...

I don't have a Nectar card

 

[nagapie]

My partner is a vegetarian and we can get loads of stuff from Nisa that no other corner shop sells. They also sell various flavours of decent yoghurt, which the Tesco down the road from me can't be bothered to stock. And they have a really good selection of fair trade coffees. I've never lived near a shop that sold any of these things, maybe you buy different stuff to me but I found Nisa really useful when I lived near it.

And I didn't find them unfriendly at all, quite the opposite. I hate people who think that people who work in shops owe them some great level of 'customer service'.

 

[IamSnakes]

So when you pay money you like people to be rude to you....

I can pop round later and swear at you if you have enough cash

I am a bit torn on the new Sainsbury’s - I live 50 yards away. I want Nisa to survive and the range of stuff that Sainsbury’s sell is dire, but it will probably come in handy.

 

[nagapie]

So when you pay money you like people to be rude to you....

No, I just don't expect them to kowtow. Seriously, as you use Nisa, have they ever been RUDE to you?