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Another Russian spy hit?

Spymaster said:
They're the wrong target though aren't they? Would Putin give much of a fuck if we kicked out all the oligarchs?
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Reckon so, they're not all here to get away from him, no doubt plenty are friends of friends and playing with money that's important to Vlad. Besides, we could freeze all their assets and turn all their properties into social housing - no lose scenario and underground swimming pools for all.
 
moochedit said:
Trump has sacked Rex Tillerson just after Rex said Russia was responsible for this. I'm sure the two are not connected :hmm:
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one of the Beeb's US political people was on earlier - he thought it was coincidence, Tillerson has been on Trumps shitlist for over a year, and the timing of getting rid has been about a replacement, or, of course, just Trump having one of his late night brain farts...

he's been replaced by the (now former) head of CIA, a politician rather than a career intelligence officer, but one easily as sympathetic to the UK as Tillerson was, and one who will have seen what the UK has given the US, but also what CIA have developed for themselves. i doubt there'll be any rowing back.
 
your all wrong it as Mi6 operating under Mays direct command to give here a Falklands style victory over Russia awake sheep awake:facepalm:.

now the torys are probably that evil but May isn't really that popular and the spooks are more likely to turn round and go fuck off rather than support some hare-brained scheme like this :D
 
I may not be 100% on this, but the last time I looked, there was not a sanctions directive against Russia per se issued by the UK Treasury - some individuals / PEPS who are russian, but we don't have a standalone policy on Russia outside any already agreed position. Plenty against Belarus/ Ukraine/ Iran whateves, but nothing overarching on Russia. be interesting to see if this changes.
 
kebabking said:
one of the Beeb's US political people was on earlier - he thought it was coincidence, Tillerson has been on Trumps shitlist for over a year, and the timing of getting rid has been about a replacement, or, of course, just Trump having one of his late night brain farts...

he's been replaced by the (now former) head of CIA, a politician rather than a career intelligence officer, but one easily as sympathetic to the UK as Tillerson was, and one who will have seen what the UK has given the US, but also what CIA have developed for themselves. i doubt there'll be any rowing back.
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I am not sure how true that is, though the "its a coincidence" theory will be the one the Government wants to push given that they will look complete fools otherwise. Certainly one could easily make an argument that Tillerson's backing to the UK Government may have been made without his bosses support, or even knowledge, and so when Boris et al boasted of it today Trump was bounced into his usual daftness.
 
There were already plenty of signs that Tillerson was being cut adrift so I'm not big on making a connection to the UK Russia stuff.
 
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Rosemary Jest said:
Does the nerve agent have an instant effect? Sorry for my ignorance, just interested to know.
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Just to add further: Sky News interviewed Mirzayanov, one of the developers of novichok, now in the US. He underlined the rapid effect and potential to persist in the environment (though one thing going for the British climate is it will tend to wash away and hydrolyse the agent more quickly than the stony Uzbek desert where it was originally tested). He mentioned that symptoms of those exposed even to trace amounts might appear over years and those exposed to any ‘significant’ dose would, if they survived, be “invalids” requiring medical assistance for (what is left of) their life. He seems to be of the opinion it would have been delivered as a spray.
 
Artaxerxes said:
Another dead russian turned up.

Russian exile Nikolai Glushkov found dead at his London home
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The mask of the red death:

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Wonder what 'our' Spooks are up thinking about all this. No one expects May to do anything but they're not short on their own history of bastardry, bet a few are rubbing their hands together with glee at the prospect of being able to grab their poison tipped umbrellas and James Bond watches. Or whatever it is they have, really sharp Oyster Cards maybe.
 
I also think the Tillerson thing is a coincidence but it yet another in a long line of embarrassments for May and her government. Its pretty much every time they sy or do anything it blows up in their faces.
 
YouSir said:
Wonder what 'our' Spooks are up thinking about all this. No one expects May to do anything but they're not short on their own history of bastardry, bet a few are rubbing their hands together with glee at the prospect of being able to grab their poison tipped umbrellas and James Bond watches. Or whatever it is they have, really sharp Oyster Cards maybe.
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Teaboy said:
I also think the Tillerson thing is a coincidence but it yet another in a long line of embarrassments for May and her government. Its pretty much every time they sy or do anything it blows up in their faces.
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Yeah. it's well funny :)
 
I suppose people may have noticed Cobyn being slated for questioning oligarch donations to the vermin, by people who style themselves 'centrists'. Full of shit does not even begin to cover it.
 
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teqniq said:
I suppose people may have noticed Cobyn being slated for questioning oligarch donations to the vermin, by people who style themselves 'centrists'. Full of shit does not even begin to cover it.
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They've got their finger on the pulse as how to respond - senior FA administrators shouldn't go to the World Cup, but they haven't decided whether the England team should.
 
moochedit said:
Maybe i should emigrate to new zealand.:hmm:
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You might want to reconsider that plan…
Russian spy claims he was poisoned just like Sergei Skripal as Vladimir Putin wants him dead.

Defector Boris Karpichkov says he became a 'walking corpse' after what he claims was poisoning and is on a hit list of eight defectors targeted by the Russian leader. The ex-KGB major claims he suffered the first of two chemical attacks in November 2006 – the week defector Alexander Litvinenko was poisoned in London by polonium in a cup of tea.

Karpichkov had fled to New Zealand after being warned by MI5 that an attempt on his life was imminent. He says: “A street beggar came up and sprayed something in my face. I felt the earth spin and had flu-like symptoms. In a couple of months I’d lost 66lbs and all body hair. I was a walking corpse.”

Medical records seen by the Sunday Mirror show poisoning was suspected though never proved. In March 2007 Karpichkov fell ill again after a chemical was sprayed on his carpet. Toxicology tests in New Zealand and London could not pinpoint the cause.

Now in the wake of the Skripal poisoning, Karpichkov says he was warned last month by a secret contact in the FSB – the modern-day KGB – to look out for e-cigarettes concealing nerve gas.
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Source: Sunday Mirror, 11 March 2018

What are the chances Skripal is a smoker?
 
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