DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Apparently Boris Jonson has had the chief russian bod in london over to demand wtf is going on before the end of tomorrow. Bet that was a fun conversation
Another Russian spy hit?
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not-bono-ever
meh
Boris will shit his pants and get the whiteface when the Ambassdor passes across a copy of the *dossier* they have on him
teqniq
DisMembered
It's like you said though, they shot down an airliner full of civilians and nothing was done, they really don't give a shit and now we hear there's a list. It'll be like some warped version of Dale's Supermarket Sweep...'How many can you get on the list before the Presidential elections????'
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I thought that had been disproved?And another one containing most of the Polish government.
Allegedly
At least he can 100% count on support from our closest allies across the Atlantic. If not our comrades in Europe will rally round.
2hats
Dust.
Pretty much guaranteed if they sprinkle a little Novichok in between the pages.
teqniq
DisMembered
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Hard to argue with any of that.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
So after weeks of the loyal press painting Corbyn as a communist agent we get a Russian spy ‘hit’ and the government gets to strut about waving spears for a few weeks looking tough. “Good job we don’t have some traitorous pinko running the place at the time of such a crisis...”
(On a more serious note they will exploit this as much as possible, looking for the Falklands effect. Not sure having a clown as foreign sec will be reassuring to the public mind)
(On a more serious note they will exploit this as much as possible, looking for the Falklands effect. Not sure having a clown as foreign sec will be reassuring to the public mind)
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Rosemary Jest
Wrong and Unstable
On a purely practical level, how does a chemical like this get delivered to the victims?
Put in their tagliatelle at Zizzi's by the new member of staff with a suspicious Russian accent? Or sprayed on them when they were sitting on the bench? Seems like the latter if the copper attending to them was also affected? But then there would be the risk of more innocent victims passing by?
Does the nerve agent have an instant effect? Sorry for my ignorance, just interested to know.
Put in their tagliatelle at Zizzi's by the new member of staff with a suspicious Russian accent? Or sprayed on them when they were sitting on the bench? Seems like the latter if the copper attending to them was also affected? But then there would be the risk of more innocent victims passing by?
Does the nerve agent have an instant effect? Sorry for my ignorance, just interested to know.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I think they’re generally caused to ingest it somehow. That was the case with Litvinenko and the Polinium. I would have thought that spraying it around would be too hazardous to others nearby, including the assassin.
Rosemary Jest
Wrong and Unstable
Makes sense, but how was the copper affected by it too?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Pure guesswork but perhaps they vomited or spat on him.
They think they got exposed to the agent at home now iirc.
Jeremiah18.17
Well-Known Member
According to the Graun, Novichok has common effects with other nerve agents but the key difference is its persistence- other agents rapidly decay and disperse - Novichok hangs around. Hence the extraordinary measures we are seeing in Salisbury. Might mean that whoever delivered it could have used a method that meant they could have left a dose, say, sprayed in a car interior in advance of the victims arriving, without being contaminated themselves. Use of this agent seems very deliberate - to leave an exotic signature, persistent detectable traces and public terror....,
pesh
Well-Known Member
i'm liking the picture they went with...
Strong response? hell yeah, we sent a PCSO over, she's got the whole place on lockdown. Moscow are shitting themselves.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
that looks like a copper wearing a black face mask to me. i wonder what squirrelp makes of it
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh that can happen if you laugh too much
not-bono-ever
meh
Discreet calls have been made to see how much support there is for a move to exclude Russian banks and financials from the swift payment system. I gather support has been far less than lukewarm and the Bank of England is holding its head in its hands as we speak. Cash is king as they say.
Its been done with Iran and NK but Russia is a rather different fish
Its been done with Iran and NK but Russia is a rather different fish
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
the heavier money seems to be on the delivery location being at his home - with the method being perhaps a letter or card (possibly a condolence card hence his daughter getting seriously exposed as well) or flowers. the police officer was exposed at the house, which is where the greatest contamination would be.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
It's a pity that Kasually Krasniy has gone. I would have enjoyed seeing him explain how Ukraine/Israel/Hillary was actually behind this business.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
oh theres still plenty of them around.
not-bono-ever
meh
he has probably been reassigned to another role and handed over his brief to another apparatchik
2hats
Dust.
Time to onset of effects will likely depend on the variant of Novichok (there are many, with variously differing properties, and perhaps this one has been specifically engineered for delayed effect); nerve agents are usually quick acting (certainly ones produced for battlefield use). Then one might need to consider any substrate used to convey it (aerosol probably unlikely but powder, gel, liquid) plus the details of the physical situation/environment and mechanism of the delivery (parcel sent to the house, gift from a ‘friend’ to place on a grave, deposited on/in his car, dusted on his clothing at some point, etc). Was the daughter an unwitting courier? Is there another party involved perhaps known to the victim? Or was the delivery cack-handed and we are just seeing some of the dots from the subsequent mess? At the moment there are obviously too few data points in the public domain to inform anything other than speculation and it may of course remain that way for a long time.
2hats
Dust.
Surprise! Leggy wobble.
What makes you think he’s gone? Two months of not posting isn’t a massive amount of time.
