Angel pub on Coldharbour Lane becomes arty community space run by Brick Box

[Kanda]

I think she'd be perfectly comfortable in the Hand-in-Hand.

Depends on whether she's as cheerful as you of course

Except they don't do coffee...

NPR Gentrified??? lol

 

[teuchter]

I think she'd be perfectly comfortable in the Hand-in-Hand.

Depends on whether she's as cheerful as you of course

Her cheerfulness would be directly related to whether the coffee was any good.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Her cheerfulness would be directly related to whether the coffee was any good.

Well as the Hand doesn't do any, wonders about The Sultan

The Sultan does have a lovely big garden as well

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Except they don't do coffee...

NPR Gentrified??? lol

He's obviously not been in The Sultan

 

[Kanda]

Well as the Hand doesn't do any, wonders about The Sultan

The Sultan does have a lovely big garden as well

Nope.

 

[teuchter]

NPR has a vintage tat shop at the end of it now, doesn't it? Clearly not untainted by gentrification. And the block of yuppie flats where they have parties and keep AJ awake. And the telegraph shut down amidst complaints about noise from the residents. And a Sainsbury. And Kanda drinks there.

 

[Ms T]

I live in a gentrified bit of Brixton (near Poet's Corner) and my parents still think it's a dump!

 

[Crispy]

NPR has a vintage tat shop at the end of it now, doesn't it? Clearly not untainted by gentrification.

Cafe/tat shop. The food is cheap and wholesome.

 

[Kanda]

NPR has a vintage tat shop at the end of it now, doesn't it? Clearly not untainted by gentrification. And the block of yuppie flats where they have parties and keep AJ awake. And the telegraph shut down amidst complaints about noise from the residents. And a Sainsbury. And Kanda drinks there.

The penthouse flat there is a shit tip owned by a 'group' of people, pretty bad state of disrepair, they're hardly yuppies in that block. But yeah, they did get the Telegraph shut down, wankers.

Vintage tat shop?? It's just a shitty cafe.

I'm moving away so I don't count

 

[editor]

In my world, if you move into a new shiny 'lifestyle' block right next to a well established lively pub and then start complaining about the noise, the pub should automatically get an additional hour added to their late license.

 

[Kanda]

In my world, if you move into a new shiny 'lifestyle' block right next to a well established lively pub and then start complaining about the noise, the pub should automatically get an additional hour added to their late license.

Completely agree It's hardly a lifestyle block though, it's converted offices isn't it? The flats aren't very nice inside...

 

[editor]

Completely agree It's hardly a lifestyle block though, it's converted offices isn't it? The flats aren't very nice inside...

I was talking in more general terms, although that's what happened at the Duke of Edinburgh and I fear will happen on Coldharbour Lane too when Clifton Mansions gets lifestyled up.

 

[ViolentPanda]

In a FREE night in a pub full of locals, you clueless oaf. Most of the Actionettes have lived in Brixton or thereabouts for years on end too.

Cheap shot. Pathetic.

That's teuchter for you.

 

[ViolentPanda]

If I was opening a community arts venture in a neighbourhood, I'd maybe start by inviting the local community in for an open day and tell them all about what we're up to, rather than launching with an exclusive supper club bash.

Seems more appropriate to me.

But each to their own.

Depends what you (i.e. they) mean by "local community", really. Somehow I think their definition isn't quite in step with yours.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Loads. Even primary schools.

And at least one secondary school (Dick Sheppard).

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I'm moving away so I don't count

where you going?

 

[ViolentPanda]

So just grabbing opportunities is what we celebrate is it? How far d'you go with that?

Rushy can't answer you right now, as I grabbed the opportunity to separate him from his wallet and brain him with a tyre lever.

 

[ViolentPanda]

There's the Hero of Switzerland, but the last time I went in there it was pretty glum, which is a pity as the previous landlord and landlady were great. I've been acquainted with the present landlord for about 30 years and he's never been cheery. I can't actually ever recall him smiling. Not saying a smile has never played around his lips, just that in 30 years, I've not witnessed it.

Perhaps he's got permanent bi-hemispheric Bell's Palsy?
You never know!

 

[ViolentPanda]

I don't disagree that pubs are important to the community, but they are run for private profit, unlike libraries. And I don't think they should be a priority, when funding for essential services is at risk.

What are "essential services", though? Where my parents live in rural Norfolk, their local "community centre", the village pub, has been taken away from them 3 times (minimum) in two years because the pubco that owns the freehold is more interested in bilking new lessees than it is in serving any local community. For the (mostly middle-aged or older) residents of that village the pub was/is an "essential service". It's the place where the local community meetings took place, in whose back field the local 5-a-side team trained. This is a village that doesn't get much for it's Council Tax in terms of stuff like mains sewerage (none) or local amenities (few and far-between).
The "esssential services" argument always gets used, but very rarely gets quantified.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Pubs aren't exactly the holy grail of inclusion. If you're Muslim, or if you're an older woman who was brought up believing that pubs were for men and women of low morals, or if you can't afford a pint - no matter how long you nurse it.

I was serious about pop- in parlours, btw. A very cheap social place for all older people - plus access to routes for support if needed. And not-for-profit.

Greebo's late nan used to volunteer at a pop-in centre, and she was quite clear that there were a minority of older folk who wouldn't use it because of the impression (that they were "old" and/or "lonely") it gave.
That said, personally I reckon they actually stayed away because they'd heard stories about her apple pies, and how they could be used as discuses.

 

[Kanda]

where you going?

Not entirely sure yet. Waiting for house sale to go through, going to rent somewhere.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Not entirely sure yet. Waiting for house sale to go through, going to rent somewhere.

There's some new properties going up in Coldharbour Lane

 

[T & P]

 

[ViolentPanda]

There's some new properties going up in Coldharbour Lane

Rotter!

 

[Kanda]

There's some new properties going up in Coldharbour Lane

Ha! No thanks! Out of Brixton is looking the better choice

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Ha! No thanks! Out of Brixton is looking the better choice

Too posh for Brixton now eh?

Clapham?

 

[Kanda]

Brixton becoming too posh for me more like

 

[Greebo]

<snip>I reckon they actually stayed away because they'd heard stories about her apple pies, and how they could be used as discuses.

Incidentally, it's more or less true about the pies. More an excuse to have custard than anything. The same as her meat pies were more an excuse to have plenty of gravy.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Brixton becoming too posh for me more like

Know how you feel

 

[Gramsci]

For the same reasons, would you support state subsidy of churches?

This did happen in Communist Poland. In exchange for losing the land the church owned the State gave the church an allowance every year.