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Anelka's quenelle

revol68 said:
People are really complacent about anti semitism in the Uk because it really isn't a political force indeed the last time it got any media coverage was Baddiel's idiotic attempt to stop Spurs fans calling themselves the Yid army.
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I know i've been guilty of this. Only really hearing anti semitism in connection with israel. But this whole incident has been a wake up call.
You don't have to look too hard to find anti semitism alive and well, and often going unchallenged
 
frogwoman said:
Scarf Nazis must die :D
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Perhaps if my old employers had done the quenelle while talking about how Jews control Ukraine and run all the money laundering there it would have been an anti establishment gesture instead of corrupt racist scum trying to put everyone in their place. Maybe to avoid any discrimination claims they should be sure to do that in future if they want to start discussing the Jews while one is sitting right there having to listen to all their crap.

It pisses me the fuck off, how anyone could think this stuff is anti establishment, the majority of Jews I know could only dream of the sort of money that these cunts earn in a day. I bet if dieudonne's house would never be at risk of flooding and if not he could just pay some poor sod to lick up all the water. I bet he's never have to deal with landlords giving him one weeks notice so he can start some weird S and M set up. Etc

Yet somehow ... No. Just no.
 
Casually Red said:
it took you a full hour to think up that stunning comeback after your foot got stuck in your big mouth

now fuck off you little orange cunt
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No, I was watching the Athletico Barca match.


But I don't really have much to add, arguing with someone who thinks the Spurs Yid Army thing is anything like these cunts doing the "Quenelle".

One is the appropriation of yid as an insult into a badge of pride by the gentiles and jews it was aimed at, the other is a an anti semitic salute based on an inverted sieg heil invented by an avidly anti semitic comedian and is to be found performed by cunts in front of Auschwitz and Holocaust memorials in general.

The fact some people imagine it is anti establishment and use it in a generalised anti establishment way (as opposed to outside Anne Frank's house) doesn't make it any less anti semitic, it just means that their anti establishment politics come with anti semitism, something they at best are content to tolerate or see no contradiction with. I imagine many in 1930's Spain, Italy and Germany had similar attitudes towards Nazism.
 
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The only anti semitism i really saw first hand was when i was 20 and working with the nicest guy from northern ireland they we are installing sinks. And he turns to me and say "tony watch out for the jews they control the money, their out pulling all the strings" and the thing is he seem shit scared like he was letting me into something that would get him killed.

I never got my head around it i've met about 4 jews in my life(that ive know) Not knowing my history it seem like he just picked the most random group and invented the most unbelieve plot for them.shit there one of the smallest of the big religions, yet were suppose to believe that they control the world. I knew about the holocaust.
But it was only with this thread that i looked into the history and current position of anti semitism and now i understand why icke gets the hard time he does. Doesnt matter how small a target you make your self (no pushing your religion on others) some cunt will still make you into the enemy

The crazy thing is the 1st time we when to the local football astro truff. We wented pasted the Jewish free school and everybody Black,asian,white run over to the window and screams GAS EM ALL GAS EM ALL. and im sutting there thinking what the fuck.. Hitler would have gased the black kids as well and my mate steve as he was disabled.I was no angel but fuck were do 60 kids get that much hate.
O.K my dad was a bit anti english..but never even we were suppose to hate jews, maybe its being a traveler but it was odd that these kids black,asian many not born in england had learned this hate

Sorry im high. And reading up on anti semitism has kind of freaked me out.its like no matter what race, religion we can find a reason to hate you. Even if we've never even met you
 
I think it's been said but nazis and the like have a habit of providing ludicrous obfuscatory explanations for actions. It's a manipulative tactic, all part of the gag. These desperate attempts to apply some innocent intent to the quennelle remind me of the Berlin pub owner who claimed that his customers were shouting the German for 'tastes great', and not 'sieg heil'.
 
copliker said:
I think it's been said but nazis and the like have a habit of providing ludicrous obfuscatory explanations for actions. It's a manipulative tactic, all part of the gag. These desperate attempts to apply some innocent intent to the quennelle remind me of the Berlin pub owner who claimed that his customers were shouting the German for 'tastes great', and not 'sieg heil'.
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Fuck I know I shouldn't but :D :D
 
frogwoman said:
Fuck I know I shouldn't but :D :D
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Found it.

Eight years ago, Barrington was prosecuted after posting a picture on his website of an undercover policeman and captioning it with "this bullet is for you". Barrington now says the caption was simply a quote from a "well-known song".

Today he still likes playing with words and numbers. A popular cocktail on sale at his pub is the Himla, made with raspberry rum, and paying homage to Heinrich Himmler, the Nazi police chief. The numbers on his T-shirt translate as Adolf Hitler (A=1, H=8). Tomorrow Barrington will host one of his most popular parties, where drinks cost just 88 cents. It's just a "promotion for people with not so much money at the end of the month", he said.

Yes, he conceded in an email later, the Himla "could be seen as a provocation, but people remember it and it has turned out to be one of the most talked about drinks in Berlin. Do not forget we are a pub and not a party political headquarters. We do not have to be politically correct." As for the Sieg Heil-ing, perhaps we had misheard. Could they not have said "schmeckt geil!" (tastes great!)?
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Does Dieudonne have any other jokes about other topics or does he just bang on about the Jews all the time? Like in order for someone to be a comedian usually they have to be funny?
 
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Probably referring to the libdems. 'Is it racist to dislike liberals now?' etc

frogwoman said:
Does Dieudonne have any other jokes about other topics or does he just bang on about the Jews all the time? Like in order for someone to be a comedian usually they have to be funny?
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Dunno, but I remember seeing posters for his shows all over the place when I was in France 10+ years ago. He was dressed as a German officer.
 
frogwoman said:
Also, dieudonne means 'God's gift' is that his real name?
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According to his Wikipedia entry, that is indeed his birth name.

Talking of whom, on his French Wiki page, it has bits on his association with Alain Soral - have done a Google Translate and it's below:

In his book far will we go down ? Primer ambient stupidity , published in 2002, before the controversy due to sketch on France 3 , Alain Soral blames Dieudonné105 , and accuses him of castigating the "white slavery ." Describing the comedian of " uneducated and not funny now ," the author writes , "If Dieudonné gets angry on the French rabble , the same one that made him a star in our beautiful if somewhat racist country , it may perhaps because he itches to point the logically designated by its demand for a fairer representation of 'visible minorities' community? An "invisible community" certainly over-represented in the show- biz in terms of quotas, but that it also owes its sweet status funny. "Following these writings, Dieudonné want to meet Soral . In 2004 , the two men get to know and become friends and ultimately politically close , coming together , according Soral about " Zionism and juif106 lobby ."Therefore associated with the two men will approach the National Front and develop together their " anti-Zionism" , together create a " Zionist " list in the European elections , even supporting Iran, Hezbollah and Bashar al -Assad Syria, as evidenced by the number of documents on the site Soral (equality and reconciliation ), for example when the relay is the speech of Hezbollah in this Article 107 among many others to support this trend.It in fact shared with Alain Soral that the authors of the book The galaxy Dieudonné : to end the impostures108 call " political obsession of" anti-Zionism " " to hide , but less , where antisemitism are found and far-right ideas and radical Islam are based, according to the thesis of the authors.An article Monde109 studying the strange friendships Dieudonné . The authors write : " In the center of this galaxy, a political club : Equality and Reconciliation [ founded by Alain Soral ...] Dieudonné is now displayed as a sort of companion Equality and Reconciliation . The association intends to convert to political nationalism young people from backgrounds , particularly those from immigrant . Ideological matrix Equality and Reconciliation borrows the political line of GUD , driven by Mr. Chatillon at the turn of the 1990s, when it imposed a violently anti-Zionist position on behalf of the defense of identity . During a demonstration of support for the Palestinians , Paris, January 24 , Alain Soral and part of his troops and attempted to march to the cries of " Zionist, casse-toi , France is not yours! " On this occasion, Mr. Soral declare : " We French patriots, (...) are treated Palestinians in our own country. " And he will greet " everywhere, Venezuela, Iran , Russia, the new resistance rises against the new world order under American imperium . " That day , Equality and Reconciliation was hosted in the procession of the new Zionist Party created by the radical Shiite center Zahra often performed at the Theatre of the Golden Hand of Dieudonné and assiduously courted by the extreme right
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Casually Red said:
it took you a full hour to think up that stunning comeback after your foot got stuck in your big mouth

now fuck off you little orange cunt
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Nice.

You do know how you're coming across here don't you?

Clumsy apologism for anti-semitism followed by crude sectarianism.

Maybe you didn't mean it, maybe you you're being misunderstood, maybe you don't give a fuck, either way worth reflecting on how you are portraying yourself.
 
The joke is I'm a taig, just not a nationalist, ergo I'm a defacto stooge of imperialism.

If you haven't already picked up on Casually's nuanced political logic, it's all out in the open on this thread.
 
phildwyer said:
And you thought the quenelle looked like a Nazi salute.

No offence, but you're seeing what you want to see here. As are many others.
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It does, and is it unreasonable to think that a comedian who is publically and consistently antisemitic and does songs that take the piss out of the holocaust might have Nazis among their fans?
Of course not


 
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