Andy Coulson, the Met Police and Murdoch

[agricola]

This isn't about the Computer Misuse Act any more. This is tampering with (potential) evidence and obstructing the police in the course of an investigation.

Its not though - this misbehaviour is a minor part of a much wider, much worse and profoundly more disgusting scandal. It is that scandal that needs to be dealt with, otherwise stuff like this, and worse, will keep happening.

 

[laptop]

Its not though - this misbehaviour is a minor part of a much wider, much worse and profoundly more disgusting scandal. It is that scandal that needs to be dealt with, otherwise stuff like this, and worse, will keep happening.

I wasn't thinking about the general wrongness just then.

I was thinking about charges:

• that carry a heftier sentence;
• which, as a matter of interference with the judicial process, ought to propagate further up the food-chain; and
• would present a DPP or a Commissioner with some difficulty in explaining to their Lordships why they were not pursued.

 

[laptop]

executives including Ms Brooks are expected to learn more in a previously scheduled meeting with Scotland Yard on Tuesday.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0b5d52c4-a670-11e0-ae9c-00144feabdc0.html

Watch this space...

 

[Gingerman]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14024079
Not a great week for NI

 

[Bernie Gunther]

I wasn't thinking about the general wrongness just then.

I was thinking about charges:

• that carry a heftier sentence;
• which, as a matter of interference with the judicial process, ought to propagate further up the food-chain; and
• would present a DPP or a Commissioner with some difficulty in explaining to their Lordships why they were not pursued.

Other priorities ... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...er-22-times-for-impersonating-an-officer.html

 

[Barking_Mad]

can anyone quickly outline the Met's role in all this and why they look somewhat complicit in it?

 

[agricola]

can anyone quickly outline the Met's role in all this and why they look somewhat complicit in it?

They had a previous inquiry (search this thread for "Motorman") which resulted in flip all sentences despite some strong evidence being presented and corrupt behaviour by police officers and staff being exposed, the scale of what has gone on is almost certainly massive and would probably require hundreds of detectives working for months and months to even begin to sort out, and the political / media pressure that might result from a full-scale investigation would be huge. If they are guilty of anything it is repeatedly trying to draw boundaries around an investigation, only to see events smash through those boundaries and reveal progressively more and more of what Fleet Street have been up to.

 

[ymu]

can anyone quickly outline the Met's role in all this and why they look somewhat complicit in it?

News International are used as a mouthpiece by the Met, some of their officers were paid for information by the hackers, one of their officers was warned off investigating the internal leads by the Met PR team, they've buried every lead that might make Murdoch look bad, the chickens are coming home to roost.

 

[laptop]

Better & better...

Channel 4 News has made claims about how the News of the World placed senior police detective under surveillance at a time he was investigating the murder of a private eye with links to individuals who worked for the paper.

...It said a Detective Chief Superintendent Dave Cook, a senior police officer who appeared on Crimewatch, claimed he was told by colleagues that he was under surveillance by News of the World in 2002.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/jul/05/phone-hacking-live-updates

 

[laptop]

From the above:

NoW was investigating whether Cook was having an affair with Jackie Haynes, a Crimewatch presenter who was in fact his wife.

 

[teqniq]

^^
Class.

 

[stethoscope]

Well, looking back at the beginning of this thread over a year ago, I was a little doubtful as to just how much evidence the Guardian might have had over possible phone hacking. I now eat my words!

 

[laptop]

Milly Dowler phone hacking: Speaker grants emergency Commons debate

www.parliament.uk video feed crashes around 15:30, maybe?

Above time is a guesstimate. Can't see a time on the site.

 

[Pickman's model]

Well, looking back at the beginning of this thread over a year ago, I was a little doubtful as to just how much evidence the Guardian might have had over possible phone hacking. I now eat my words!

that'll be painful, having to whack a monitor to get at the innards of the computer and eat them (if you're using a mac)

 

[DexterTCN]

Ex-NotW Paul Mulcaire on Newsnight just now said Rebecca knew about it.

 

[laptop]

Ex-NotW Paul Mulcaire on Newsnight just now said Rebecca knew about it.

Good Lord! How could she possibly have known?

Daily Mail going long on it - and interesting picture editor's choice:



'Course, they're squeaky-clean, yes?

 

[agricola]

Ex-NotW Paul Mulcaire on Newsnight just now said Rebecca knew about it.

Of course she did. They published a story in April 2002 that could only have come from listening to her (Milly's) voice messages, and told Surrey Police about it.

 

[trashpony]

Of course she did. They published a story in April 2002 that could only have come from listening to her (Milly's) voice messages, and told Surrey Police about it.

Of course she did. As did Coulson. As Robert Peston reported on BBC News. The pair of them should go down for this. And bring the fucking tories down with them (fat chance but I can dream)

 

[agricola]

Of course she did. As did Coulson. As Robert Peston reported on BBC News. The pair of them should go down for this. And bring the fucking tories down with them (fat chance but I can dream)

Lets not forget the party who were in power (and quite far up Murdochs arse themselves, lets not forget) for most of the time this was going on.

 

[trashpony]

Lets not forget the party who were in power (and quite far up Murdochs arse themselves, lets not forget) for most of the time this was going on.

True. They're all a bunch of fucking cunts aren't they?

 

[ymu]

Five prime ministers and the Met are up to their necks in it. Let's take them all out.

 

[DexterTCN]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/jul/05/phone-hacking-live-updates
Mumsnet has pulled its advertising...from Sky.

 

[yardbird]

Ah ha
Payments to the police

Lies upon lies upon lies.
Watch out Cameron.

 

[trashpony]

Fuck, I would love it if this whole thing sucked News International into the ground like the ugly fucking succubus it is.

 

[London_Calling]

I'd be happy with a decent privacy law.

 

[Fedayn]

Is it me or does it look very much like NewsCorp is happy to hang Coulson out to dry-re the emails re paying police-in order to try and save Wade?!

 

[agricola]

I'd be happy with a decent privacy law.

Maybe, but dont forget that most of the things they were doing were illegal, in some cases (interfering with murder investigations, corrupting police officers and staff) very illegal. (edit) Having a new law wont be of much use when old ones arent adhered to.

 

[London_Calling]

Agreed, but I'd contend the platform (for phone hacking) was a media culture based on the absence of a right to privacy.

 

[ymu]

Is it me or does it look very much like NewsCorp is happy to hang Coulson out to dry-re the emails re paying police-in order to try and save Wade?!

Brooks (nee Wade) is gone too, I reckon. Can't see her lasting out tomorrow. They're trying to sever the trail to Downing Street now, I think. The minions have one final use.

 

[Pickman's model]

not much of a use is it, to get fired so that temporarily cameron can evade contagion.