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Andy Coulson, the Met Police and Murdoch

London_Calling said:
Either I'm not getting the full deal here or the Met have acted way, way beyond what's acceptable; apart from everything that went before (and that was far too much anyway), Gordon Brown wrote 6 months ago to Scotland Yard about his phone calls being accessed while he was Chancellor of the Exchequer and hasn't even had a reply?

Jesus, can you imagine if someone in the markets had known of this wheeze.

This is hugely serious stuff and the Met have just sat on it.
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I agree - this has left the Met looking very, very bad indeed and if there's a public enquiry, some officers will be up to their necks in it
 
London_Calling said:
This is hugely serious stuff and the Met have just sat on it.
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Bottom line imo, is that heads should roll (if not for collusion then incompetence) nor should any found to be guilty in this respect be allowed to sidle comfortably into some lucrative little consultancy number.
 
teqniq said:
Bottom line imo, is that heads should roll (if not for collusion then incompetence) nor should any found to be guilty in this respect be allowed to sidle comfortably into some lucrative little consultancy number.
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Well, even phone hackers have human rights. Not sure how you're going to restrict their right to work wherever they find employment.
 
was intersting to see how the Sunday Times covered this, : front page : the lawyer pursing the legal action against other papers, though that fits with this, also an intersting article in the Scottish edition (don't know if it was in the London edition) attriubiting Coulson's resignation to Tommy Sheridan's cross examination of him last month.

Don't beleive the Brown bit, did he not bring it up when he was in power coz it was such an embarssing security breach? - oportunism.
 
Streathamite said:
true - but why should John Prescott, Simon Hughes, Max Clifford and Elle McPherson be running scared of the Wapping skinheads?
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Because Clifford relies on the papers to run his business, Prescott might have similar problems in his own party soon, McPherson will probably be paid off, and Hughes... well he might keep running with it, I suppose.

As for the Met and CPS and their failure to prosecute, as I have said before on this thread I can well understand why they are reluctant to do so given the failure of previous investigations on the same topic. Any reasonably detailed, in-depth look at what the NOTW was doing will inevitably go on to what the rest of Fleet Street was doing, will almost certainly attract the ire of what would probably be a united press and its assorted hangers-on, would probably require at least dozens of officers for a prolonged period of time, and would probably only result in piffling sentences (Goodman got four months, Mulcaire six, the people convicted in Motorman - including a Met civilian worker who had been paid to access the PNC - got conditional discharges) anyway.
 
agricola said:
Because Clifford relies on the papers to run his business, Prescott might have similar problems in his own party soon, McPherson will probably be paid off, and Hughes... well he might keep running with it, I suppose.

As for the Met and CPS and their failure to prosecute, as I have said before on this thread I can well understand why they are reluctant to do so given the failure of previous investigations on the same topic. Any reasonably detailed, in-depth look at what the NOTW was doing will inevitably go on to what the rest of Fleet Street was doing, will almost certainly attract the ire of what would probably be a united press and its assorted hangers-on, would probably require at least dozens of officers for a prolonged period of time, and would probably only result in piffling sentences (Goodman got four months, Mulcaire six, the people convicted in Motorman - including a Met civilian worker who had been paid to access the PNC - got conditional discharges) anyway.
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answer to para1; fair enough, except that I was quibbling why all those celebs would let wariness at pissing off NI win over their natural and justified anger at what is, whichever way you look at it, an outrageous violation of privacy.
Answer to para 2; I see your point, and that's where the met have a huge problem; they've handled this so very, very badly so far that [possibly the only way to rescue their reputation, given that this is so very politically sensitive, is by holding a huge investigation now, and by being seen to be taking action. Ditto their overlords in HMG.
 
Heads must roll. :)

You know, we've got a shitty bunch of people in this country, it's about time we had a proper constitution of peoples' rights to get rid of this 'it might be legal, it might not be' crap.

This shit's the logical follow-on from cheque-book journalism.
 
Latest News: Ian Edmondson has now been sacked by the NoTW, and it's confirmed they had Steve Coogan's number
e2a: The Met have now launched a new inquiry
 
Because Clifford relies on the papers to run his business,
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No he doesn't. The newspaper stuff is by far and away the most visible part of his operation, but the real day-to-day stuff is involved in taking commissions for celebrity appearances & endorsements, not to mention the sleb mags and websites across the UK, Europe and elsewhere. It would potentially hurt a lot of his clients were they not visible in the Sun and NotW - especially since the papers would be running negative stories - but this kind of thing can be contained and spun elsewhere.
 
As being reported on R4 atm:-

Police have launched a fresh investigation into phone hacking after receiving "significant new information", Scotland Yard has said.

The information relates to hacking at the News of the World in 2005, which led to its royal editor being jailed.

The BBC has learned the paper sacked former head of news Ian Edmondson on Tuesday following an internal inquiry.

A source said a trawl of his e-mails had found "highly damaging evidence" that had been passed to the police.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12290535
 
Apparently Murdock is in town and cleaning shop, he is where the new info is coming from, but according to R4 Andy Coulson is not named in the new info.
 
I suspect that this is just the tip of the iceberg. Widespread throughout News International and other media groups too.
 
And now the acting head of the Met is being hauled before the MPA to explain why the Met invastigation was so pisspoor. better and better!
 
Maggot said:
I suspect that this is just the tip of the iceberg. Widespread throughout News International and other media groups too.
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very probably, but ol' Rupe's the newspaper proprietor you'd want to see hurt most. He's in London right now, and getting hands on in a way he's not done for years. Given that all this is happening at the same time as he's trying to get approval for the sky buyout, the bastard must be rattled
 
Yep, fresh last night/today I think.

Edit: Before then it was just the period up to 2006 that was being investigated.
 
39% stake, going for an allout purchase of bskyb.

Shit hitting fans,

Sports reporters sacked,

Iffy political communications bloke resigns,

Dodgy hackenings in the Murdock camp, its a conspiracy I tell you, a conspiracy.
 
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