ice-is-forming
let me rephrase that... Fuck off
This is a tragic event. Three American fire fighters died in a plane crash, whilst flying a water bomber 
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DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
Sadly unsurprising, fixed wing aerial firefighting is under-regulated, wildly dangerous and surprisingly poorly paid.
The Australian civil aviation authority specifically waived a whole set of regulations to allow N134CG to operate in Australia...
The Australian civil aviation authority specifically waived a whole set of regulations to allow N134CG to operate in Australia...
T & P
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Flight emergency over the skies of Madrid right now! An Air Canada flight had engine trouble on take-off which also led to the partial destruction of the landing gear. The flight has been flying over the Madrid area for more than an hour trying to burn off excess fuel before attempting the emergency landing. Lots of initial alarm in Madrid as the 767 was flying very low over the city...
Flight tracker here Live Flight Tracker - Real-Time Flight Tracker Map | Flightradar24
Information in Spanish here: Barajas prepara el aterrizaje de emergencia de un avión canadiense con daños en una rueda y un motor
Flight tracker here Live Flight Tracker - Real-Time Flight Tracker Map | Flightradar24
Information in Spanish here: Barajas prepara el aterrizaje de emergencia de un avión canadiense con daños en una rueda y un motor
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I see another Pegasus jet has skidded off a runway and with deadly results this time. They do have a certain MO for their crashes.
Once - Well, jets do skid off runways time to time
Twice - Could be a coincidence
Three times - That's a pattern
I will not be flying this airline.
Once - Well, jets do skid off runways time to time
Twice - Could be a coincidence
Three times - That's a pattern
I will not be flying this airline.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
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There is a discussion currently going on in an aviation forum about the tendency of 737s to overrun runaways in inclement weather, and to break apart during relatively minor runway excursion incidents, compared with A320s in similar situations anyway. Something I didn't know (if the claims made by several members of that aviation forum are correct) is that the A320 is certified to withstand forces of 16g in case of an impact, whereas the 737 is only good for 5g. Not sure if they're talking about the fuselage or the seats, but it is massive difference either way.
The more I think about it, the more it seems to me that if the FAA hadn't been the gimp in Boeing's basement for all these decades, the 737 would have lost its airworthiness directive a long time ago. It's a bit like keep granting MOT certificates to a 1970s Ford Cortina with no seatbeatls at the back and pisspoor brakes.
You're probably right that the 737 should have been ditched years ago and I imagine there's more than a few at Boeing saying the same thing loudly. Their overly cozy relationship with the FAA probably did have something to do with that.
The other stuff sounds a bit alarmist though. The safety record of the 737 has been excellent. I'm more interested in why it's Pegasus pilots that are so averse to keeping their plane on the runway.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
No idea about the G thing, but 16G would surely be fatal anyway?
2hats
Dust.
Depends on the timescale. Besides, transient 16g load on an airframe (or even seat attach points) doesn't necessarily translate to the same for someone strapped into a seat riding inside. Figures around 15g sound like testing specs concerning floor acceleration and thus seat attach points/rails - see eg CFR 25.562. For example - 16g here:
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New record for NYC to London and the storms had barely kicked in Storm Ciara Helps BA Flight Make 'Fastest Ever Subsonic Atlantic Crossing'
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NOPE!!! 
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Question for the pilots in here: given the ever-increasing sophistication of computer technology in aviation, aren’t we yet at the stage where the auto-land capability of a latest generation aircraft (say an A350 or B787) would not only be able to safely land a plane in such challenging conditions, but do so safer than a human pilot? Or is it not allowed because of regulations/ politics?
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Because they are Air India. You can of course leave the airport and spend a day in the complete shithole that is Mumbai...
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I would have thought that computers by can by their very nature calculate and analyse complex data much faster than human beings, which would make them better at landing in challenging conditions that require multiple and fast changes to the control surfaces and throttle settings of a plane. The pilot could still override the autopilot if a situation becomes extreme or the computer fails to react approprietly to any given aspect of the approach.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
it depends what you mean by "extreme" conditions. Autoland systems are designed for use in very low visibility and (usually) have a lower crosswind limit than a manual landing. So all of these failed approaches in the storm are almost certainly being flown manually.
bimble
floofy
They rebooked me on something decent with few hrs stop in Delhi instead, but it took 1 hour 40 mins of a really painful phonecall yesterday evening.
Why is the on hold music the same for everything , like uk power company and air india hq same stupid music??
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
They rebooked me on something decent with few hrs stop in Delhi instead, but it took 1 hour 40 mins of a really painful phonecall yesterday evening.
Why is the on hold music the same for everything , like uk power company and air india hq same stupid music??
Ah well, hope you have a lovely time. And the LHR-Delhi isn't late...
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
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I think it’s just the shear (ha) number of variables once you get strong crosswinds. Auto land can land a plane in the dark or fog as long as the wind is kind of in the right direction (even if not) and not to chaotic. Storm force winds like this are going to have all kinds of different gusts from multiple directions caused by the air moving over the ground. Crosswind landings are a bit of an art rather than a science In any case- I haven’t got much beyond the crayon stage...
