seeformiles
Lost in the wood
Hmmm - do Wetherspoons think that they have a higher than average percentage of ne’er do wells among their clientele that requires monitoring?
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Hmmm - do Wetherspoons think that they have a higher than average percentage of ne’er do wells among their clientele that requires monitoring?
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
No doubt. But weatherspoons isn’t the only employer in the sector that operates minimum employment standards and where union organisation is needed.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
You asked what's wrong with wetherspoons not what's wrong with employment standards in the pub sector, altho wetherspoons with their economy of scale unmatched and unmatchable by pretty much any other free houses and their consequent influences on wider standards would see TM a good place to start too
Yossarian
⏭️
The McDonald's of pubs.
ska invita
back on the other side
there was a brief boycott spoons campaign over staff lockdown (no) pay last year too
Was about to post that ^
Wetherspoon's is not the only cunty hospitality company but it is owned by a Conservative cunt of the highest order. Maybe other chains have the same type of cunt in charge but none are so vocal and hateful. Their actions are the ones that get the press attention as do McDonald's vs BK or other chains.
Minimum wage, zero hours contracts, fuck all benefits/support bar the legal bare minimum.
I once worked there and they are an awful employer. Their cunt boss wanting to fuck over his entire workforce at the start of a pandemic shows the measure of the man.
It's a shame the spray-painting of Tim Martin's boozers came to an end. I think it should definitely be an ongoing thing. And a boycott.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
sweltering 23c?
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
I'm sure they are, but they are run by a racist fuck nugget who shits on his workers and shits on the public and the reason they are cheap is because said racist fuck nugget shits on everyone to make as much money for himself as possible.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
I asked what was wrong with Weatherspoons in response to a poster appearing to mock those looking forward to visiting one after lockdown.
Not sure their scale is 'unmatched and unmatchable' either. Yes, its the biggest: but only just. (8.8% of the market compared to Mitchells & Butlers with 7.4%, Greene King 5.8% and Stonegate Pub Co 3.6%). Not sure the poster was thinking about agglomeration though.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I have to ask if you know what a free house is
because greene king don't seem to me to be such under any reasonable definition
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yes, I think it's fair to distinguish between valid criticism of Martin's politics and style of capital accumulation and, what can come across as a somewhat sneering attitude, expressed towards those of us that use Wetherspoons. In my case, the only pub in town
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
[Sat 27th October 2012] Anarchist Bookfair - London
http://anarchistbookfair.org.uk/ Interesting line up as always. I will be dusting off my string ( lost the dog years ago) and have no intention of washing between now and the day - so should fit in fine. Can't really face growing a beard though. Anyone else going?www.urban75.net
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
The39thStep yeh i was in a wetherspoons in 2012. well spotted. but i was also the editor of this little magazine from 2007.
sometimes you have to go places which aren't ideal. but that's capitalism for you, i'm typing on a computer made by dell running on software by microsoft, neither of them companies i want much to do with.
sometimes you have to go places which aren't ideal. but that's capitalism for you, i'm typing on a computer made by dell running on software by microsoft, neither of them companies i want much to do with.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
It wasn't meant to be a personal dig tbh however, it reminded me of when lots of the Anarchist Bookfair crowd would meet in Weatherspoons when the Bookfair was at the old site.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you don't have to have gone to wetherspoons to know what's objectionable about them, but it helps
andysays
Love and solidarity
Sorry if this makes me appear a boring old traditionalist, but maybe an attempt to organise Wetherspoons workers might be more worthwhile than spray painting.
ska invita
back on the other side
thats already happening
andysays
Love and solidarity
Glad to hear it.
IMO, campaigns against exploitative companies like Wetherspoons, Amazon and McDonalds have too often been completely divorced from the workers, preferring to focus almost entirely on consumer boycotts, so it's good that seems to he changing
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
ska invita
back on the other side
its been a relatively effective campaign i think, someone else will know the details better but I think there was both a looser grassroots union and a drive to join the Bakers, Food and Allied Workers Union
...tbf a lot of the #boycottwetherspoons stuff came from the heat generated by union organising is my impression rather than consumer snobishness.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
I'm not convinced a boycott practically does much to helps workers to organise for better conditions, but I haven't seen much from BFAWU on the campaign lately to know if it's having some impact and acting as some kind of leverage on their bosses. I hope it is.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Greene King beer is like drinking piss.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
My impression is the other way around tbh . Despite Weatherspoon workers saying don't boycott the pro boycott lobby is full of people who for various reasons just don't like Weatherspoons.
ska invita
back on the other side
yes there was some confusion: IIRC boycott call went up when it was looking like workers wouldnt get furlough money, then after that was all resolved a dont boycott call went up from (some?) workers saying it would hurt them most, but youd have to follow closely to know all of that and not get confused < i think thats what happened
Definite remainers hate wetherspoons streak of energy in the mix there too <fair enough tbh as hes a cunt
Definite remainers hate wetherspoons streak of energy in the mix there too <fair enough tbh as hes a cunt
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
My limited and purely anecdotal impression is that workers up here (well at the spoons in West Brom to be totally accurate) were unaware of both the organising campaign and hadn't even noticed a boycott was in operation. Maybe its the wrong type of area?
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