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I'm not actually sure what a community pub is but I've moved around a lot over the years and always gone to pubs like that to meet people. Main reason I've ended up being mates with a lot of community piss-heads.
 
The39thStep said:
Think it’s fair to say that he can but he might have to raise the wages, which I’m sure you are in favour of .
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Yes certainly in favour but that will mean an increase in prices which will in turn reduce the appeal of spoons. When I have drunk in them in the past most of the staff I have chatted to would much prefer to work in another bar.
The more independent pubs the better imho. each with their own character.
 
MrSki said:
Yes certainly in favour but that will mean an increase in prices which will in turn reduce the appeal of spoons. When I have drunk in them in the past most of the staff I have chatted to would much prefer to work in another bar.
The more independent pubs the better imho. each with their own character.
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So anecdotally staff you’d chatted to you are unhappy and would rather work elsewhere but you are in favour of inflicting employment at Wetherspoons on EU staff? Who normally comes out with the line higher wages equals higher prices ?
 
The39thStep said:
So anecdotally staff you’d chatted to you are unhappy and would rather work elsewhere but you are in favour of inflicting employment at Wetherspoons on EU staff? Who normally comes out with the line higher wages equals higher prices ?
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No I would be happy to see Wetherspoons go under and independent pubs take over the market. Am happy to be served by staff from anywhere in the world as long as they are happy to serve me.
If you think that staffing costs, which are a large proportion of a pubs overheads, do not affect the price of a pint then I can't really argue with you.
It is a fine balance for a pub not to be over staffed & be able to sell as much as possible to meet the demand.
 
MrSki said:
No I would be happy to see Wetherspoons go under and independent pubs take over the market. Am happy to be served by staff from anywhere in the world as long as they are happy to serve me.
If you think that staffing costs, which are a large proportion of a pubs overheads, do not affect the price of a pint then I can't really argue with you.
It is a fine balance for a pub not to be over staffed & be able to sell as much as possible to meet the demand.
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You are trying to make a point that Wetherspoons needs cheap labour otherwise it’ll go bust . Then we have the pay the staff more and beer prices will go up making Wetherspoons less attractive . Then you wish that it does go bust and miraculously taken by independent pubs . Of course in the midst of this are the staff whether they are U.K. or EU .
Come on a belief in remaining in the EU surely isn’t worth this line of approach . Mr Ski you are capable of better than this .
 
andysays said:
WTF is going on with this thread?

Yesterday it was all pork scratching recommendations and now we're on to community pubs.

This thread is for ill-tempered attacks and blaming all the problems in the world on Brexiteers, so kindly take your off-topic good natured discussion elsewhere :mad:
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It's been at least three posts since we mentioned bands this needs sorting
 
The39thStep said:
You are trying to make a point that Wetherspoons needs cheap labour otherwise it’ll go bust . Then we have the pay the staff more and beer prices will go up making Wetherspoons less attractive . Then you wish that it does go bust and miraculously taken by independent pubs . Of course in the midst of this are the staff whether they are U.K. or EU .
Come on a belief in remaining in the EU surely isn’t worth this line of approach . Mr Ski you are capable of better than this .
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I think it is Tim Martin who is making the point that Spoons need cheap labour not me.
I would like to see all pubs taken over by either their staff, the local community or both. I think the way Martin treated his staff during Covid is disgusting & hope he gets what he deserves.
The pub trade has changed a lot over the last thirty odd years. When I first started drinking in pubs they were just for drinking. Lucky to get & pork scratching or a ham roll. Certainly not somewhere you would go for a cup of coffee. Now a lot of pubs have expanded their range of non alcoholic products be it food or coffee & in a lot of villages have taken on the role of the local shop & the extension of opening hours has helped.

My ex local in King's Cross became community owned about ten years ago & as far as I am aware is still going strong. Not sure how lockdown has impacted but there is a thread about it somewhere.

ETA here. Charles I in Kings Cross: a lovely little boozer

When it comes to Spoons it is more about Martin being such a cunt than Brexit.
 
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he is that desperate for attention these day that he is now denying he premoted Brexit


has Trump stop returning his calls ?
 
Normally amiable and carefully-spoken, he struggled to keep his tone even as he explained how furious he was with the government's handling of negotiations over a trade deal with Australia. He said ministers had been "dishonest".

"We aren't afraid of a Free Trade Deal, but we've been given absolutely no assurances about what standards will be upheld," he said.

Mr Barton argues that the government had backtracked on a pledge to allow independent scrutiny of trade bills before they are signed.
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www-bbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org

Farmers' opposition to UK-Australia trade deal grows - BBC News

Opposition among UK farmers is rising towards the trade deal close to being concluded with Australia.
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the farmers thing is very confusing

and aye not all voted for it but plenty did for the idea of less regulation/red tape


not getting woried about trade deal with countries who have over production
 
Ax^ said:
the farmers thing is very confusing

and aye not all voted for it but plenty did for the idea of less regulation/red tape


not getting woried about trade deal with countries who have over preduction
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Surprisingly the farmers were not told the truth & were told they would still be part of the single market. Can see why they are pissed off to be honest.
 
were english farmers informed they would not be involved in the single market


as still being in it seems to be an issue in north ireland atm

:hmm:
 
Ax^ said:
were english farmers informed they would not be involved in the single market


as still being in it seems to be an issue in north ireland atm

:hmm:
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For 5 years people asking "but what about the Northern Irish border?" were told it would be fine, we'd have magic technology sorting customs, we'd have no border in the Irish sea, it'll be grand so.

Then Johnson stormed in and promised a border in the Irish sea which got a few backs up but somehow was billed as solving the problem by the UK press. Now however we appear to have a border in Northern Ireland and one looming in the Irish sea so people are still confused and some of them are angry and a fair few are armed so...
 
Artaxerxes said:
For 5 years people asking "but what about the Northern Irish border?" were told it would be fine, we'd have magic technology sorting customs, we'd have no border in the Irish sea, it'll be grand so.

Then Johnson stormed in and promised a border in the Irish sea which got a few backs up but somehow was billed as solving the problem by the UK press. Now however we appear to have a border in Northern Ireland and one looming in the Irish sea so people are still confused and some of them are angry and a fair few are armed so...
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You're right, the British army never did decommission
 
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