A thank you to Brexiteers.

[Karl Masks]

It was a typo mistake that read appealing rather than appalling. However whilst you have popped in are you a rejoiner?

I suppose I am. I don't really see much of an alternative in an increasingly fraught global village.

I accept the EU is problematic, but then so is Westmisnter, the Tories, and Labour, etc.

I am prepared to be proven wrong but Brexit is a hiding to nowhere. I just don't see any good coming from it at all. But we won't be joining for a while which means a painful period in the wilderness possibly ending up with a visit from the IMF.

Either that or perhaps we join the customs union or something because the NI situation is just ridiculous

 

[The39thStep]

I suppose I am. I don't really see much of an alternative in an increasingly fraught global village.

I accept the EU is problematic, but then so is Westmisnter, the Tories, and Labour, etc.

I am prepared to be proven wrong but Brexit is a hiding to nowhere. I just don't see any good coming from it at all. But we won't be joining for a while which means a painful period in the wilderness possibly ending up with a visit from the IMF.

Either that or perhaps we join the customs union or something because the NI situation is just ridiculous

What would you like to change in the EU and Westminster?

 

[Karl Masks]

What would you like to change in the EU and Westminster?

I don't want to live in a capitalist society

 

[Ax^]

It was a typo mistake that read appealing rather than appalling. However whilst you have popped in are you a rejoiner?

and seeming as your asking people ..

which way did you vote or where you not eligible


not that nasty of a question spy voted remain but is now a leave proponent

 

[bimble]

Going on about the pure and righteous reasons why a handful of people voted leave in the referendum six years ago, I don't really get the point.
In what world does that even matter anymore?
Is it just saying 'well it might be a shitshow but my personal reasons for voting leave were good reasons' or is it that you still hope it will turn out in the fulness of time to have been a decisive blow to capitalism and neoliberalism ?

 

[brogdale]

According to Ipsos, the Trusspocalypse events appears to have had an impact on public attitudes to Brexit:

 

[bimble]

All the no difference people are like someone who bought a very expensive thing on credit that hasn’t made their lives any better so they should be counted with the negative impact slice.

 

[brogdale]

All the no difference people are like someone who bought a very expensive thing on credit that hasn’t made their lives any better so they should be counted with the negative impact slice.

ISWYM, but not “all”; if pressed, that would probably be the most appropriate response that I would be able to choose.

 

[bimble]

Yeah. I’m just starting the weekend as I mean to go on, by being annoying.

 

[brogdale]

Yeah. I’m just starting the weekend as I mean to go on, by being annoying.

Fair enough; I’m just trying to get in an early argument myself before starting the weekend Geri-runs.

 

[MrSki]

Worth a watch unless you are sick of the so called experts.

 

[TopCat]

So no one admits to being on that rejoin march then?

 

[bimble]

So no one admits to being on that rejoin march then?

Why bother going on a march for something that is inevitably going to happen anyway.
First it'll be just customs & standards alignment, and nobody will make a fuss, then in due course the actual rejoining process but that'll be a while yet.

 

[philosophical]

Because the marches are on Saturday’s when the football is on. Alistair Campbell went to Sunderland verses Burnley.

 

[bimble]

For the moment they all feel compelled to say exactly the same thing, but they'll stop mentioning it and just treat it like an embarrassing thing that happened once, as soon as they think its safe to do so.

 

[Yossarian]

So no one admits to being on that rejoin march then?

How many pro-Brexit marches were you on? Did you maybe decide they were people you didn't want to march with?

 

[Pickman's model]

For the moment they all feel compelled to say exactly the same thing, but they'll stop mentioning it and just treat it like an embarrassing thing that happened once, as soon as they think its safe to do so.
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Which is no doubt why there's that law going through about deleting thousands of eu laws at the end of next year, lulling the brexiteers into a false sense of security clearly while sunak is secretly planning to align more closely with Europe.

 

[Pickman's model]

Why bother going on a march for something that is inevitably going to happen anyway.
First it'll be just customs & standards alignment, and nobody will make a fuss, then in due course the actual rejoining process but that'll be a while yet.

You have read about this I suppose Britain faces chaos if it scraps EU laws, warns ex-Whitehall legal boss it would be nice if your prediction had some connection with reality

 

[bimble]

Which is no doubt why there's that law going through about deleting thousands of eu laws at the end of next year, lulling the brexiteers into a false sense of security clearly while sunak is secretly planning to align more closely with Europe.

i think they're binning that, JRM's law.

Brexit: Sunak considers easing UK plans to quickly bin retained EU laws

Rishi Sunak is considering scrapping UK plans to review or replace all retained EU laws by the end of 2023.

www.cityam.com

 

[Yossarian]

Which is no doubt why there's that law going through about deleting thousands of eu laws at the end of next year, lulling the brexiteers into a false sense of security clearly while sunak is secretly planning to align more closely with Europe.

I think he promised 100 days, I'd almost forgotten about this ad..

 

[Karl Masks]

i think they're binning that, JRM's law.

Brexit: Sunak considers easing UK plans to quickly bin retained EU laws

Rishi Sunak is considering scrapping UK plans to review or replace all retained EU laws by the end of 2023.

www.cityam.com

of course they are, diverging from standards will only further inhibit trade.

 

[Pickman's model]

i think they're binning that, JRM's law.

Brexit: Sunak considers easing UK plans to quickly bin retained EU laws

Rishi Sunak is considering scrapping UK plans to review or replace all retained EU laws by the end of 2023.

www.cityam.com

Yeh. That says nothing of the sort, merely that he's thinking about binning it. E2a it's difficult to see how someone recently described here as in hock to the erg expects to pull the wool over their eyes and fly in the face of the past six years of the tory decision to make brexit as hard as can be - I think he might kick the repeal of eu laws into the long grass for the next administration but there's no way the erg would allow sunak to align more closely with Europe

 

[bimble]

he will not bin it, he'll kick into the very long grass. Even if it passes, which i very much doubt, "The Retained EU Law Bill which had its second reading in the House of Commons on Tuesday, does contain “a power of extension” that could allow the deadline to be pushed back to 2026, if necessary."

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

For the moment they all feel compelled to say exactly the same thing, but they'll stop mentioning it and just treat it like an embarrassing thing that happened once, as soon as they think its safe to do so.
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They are all thick as mince.
For Brexit to have worked, it would have relied on British exceptionalism.
Now sure, boarding schools may tell you you are exceptional. In order to give you that headstart once mummy or daddy asks their friends about internships.
A cossetted world of ilusions. Which they cannot see beyond because of their privilege.
The man in the street is painfully aware he isn't exceptional, and his labour can be easily transferred to a man in the street elsewhere in the world.
Literally noone else in the world thinks Britiain is exceptional. Unless their interest is banking or arms deals.
I used to buy alot of records from UK shops online. Now I don't, because I know it's going to be stuck with 20 quid customs fee each time. Everyone else I speak to says the same. Those small record shops are going to feel it. I assume it is the same in other industries.
Privileged arseholes brainswashed half the population with lies via facebook.

 

[Pickman's model]

he will not bin it, he'll kick into the very long grass. Even if it passes,
"The Bill includes an extension mechanism for the sunset of specified pieces of retained EU law until 2026. "

Is there any actual evidence for your claim about standards and customs tho?

 

[bimble]

Is there any actual evidence for your claim about standards and customs tho?

no. I am doing a reckon.

 

[Pickman's model]

no. I am doing a reckon.

That's a great step back from your assertion it's inevitable

 

[bimble]

This is the most important bit of Rees Mogg's bill:


So it says whatever the new rules are that the UK comes up with (to replace EU law) they must be less 'burdonsome' to business. That's the whole point & always was.
Which means lower standards of food safety environment & workers rights, there in black and white.

 

[Pickman's model]

This is the most important bit of Rees Mogg's bill:
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So it says whatever the new rules are that the UK comes up with (to replace EU law) they must be less 'burdonsome' to business. That's the whole point & always was.
Which means lower standards of food safety environment & workers rights, there in black and white.

This isn't supporting your assertion of er aligning standards. It's really weird to see you arguing against your recent posts

 

[bimble]

I'm just saying I don't think Mogg and co will get their way in the end. I hope not anyway.