8ball
Merr xmas...
Oddly, the article talks about "Waitrose woman" having no interest in culture wars, then moves onto talking about Boris' attempt at connecting with women on Mumsnet.
It seems everyone is mixed up about demographics.
A thank you to Brexiteers.
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Oddly, the article talks about "Waitrose woman" having no interest in culture wars, then moves onto talking about Boris' attempt at connecting with women on Mumsnet.
It seems everyone is mixed up about demographics.
ska invita
back on the other side
With polling like this
And Tory MPs saying publicly the UK should rejoin the single market.... And the Irish border unresolved....I can't see Brexit as being resolved for good. Thread has legs yet!
And Tory MPs saying publicly the UK should rejoin the single market.... And the Irish border unresolved....I can't see Brexit as being resolved for good. Thread has legs yet!
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Vote Tory to rejoin the single market
ska invita
back on the other side
I can picture it down the line .. Remember even Johnson was Pro Remaining (until he saw the opportunity to use it to his personal advantage). I expect a significant number of Tories are
Key point is Breggsit will rumble on for a long time yet
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
To be honest it reminds me more of a poll where there is a majority that believe in UFOs and occasionally there is news of a distant indecipherable signal in outer space that briefly raises faint hopes and then disappears.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
The word Brexit might need a better definition.
It is certainly not the same as leave, nor is it a definition of what was voted for.
To me the word Brexit means an almighty fuck up by morons, racists and selfish bastards, and as far as I can tell my definition is as valid as anybody else’s.
So when I hear the phrase ‘got Brexit done’ I interpret it as selfish racist morons fucking everything up.
What it most decidedly isn’t is what was on the ballot paper.
It is certainly not the same as leave, nor is it a definition of what was voted for.
To me the word Brexit means an almighty fuck up by morons, racists and selfish bastards, and as far as I can tell my definition is as valid as anybody else’s.
So when I hear the phrase ‘got Brexit done’ I interpret it as selfish racist morons fucking everything up.
What it most decidedly isn’t is what was on the ballot paper.
BobDavis
Gimme All Your Lovin’
I notice the Express has now changed its position from benefits of brexit to betrayal of brexit. On the news today it was mentioned that in a recent poll 70% of leave voters stated they are unhappy with brexit. I don’t think they have turned into remainers they just believe they have been betrayed by this government. That the brexit they voted for has not been achieved.
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Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
Brexit helping cause harmful increase in fake ecstasy, study warns
Covid and crackdowns also blamed as researchers find half of pills sold as MDMA at festivals in England contained none of the drug
Huge increase in 'MDMA' not actually containing any MDMA.
Athough TBF reading the article it sounds like the pandemic is more to blame than Brexit.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
It's the lamest attempt thus far by the Grad to blame brexit for irrelevant stuff.Brexit helping cause harmful increase in fake ecstasy, study warns
Covid and crackdowns also blamed as researchers find half of pills sold as MDMA at festivals in England contained none of the drugwww.theguardian.com
Huge increase in 'MDMA' not actually containing any MDMA.
Athough TBF reading the article it sounds like the pandemic is more to blame than Brexit.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
The report, led by The Loop, including researchers from Cardiff University and the University of Liverpool, says that dismantling criminal and dark web platforms may also have disrupted the availability of MDMA, and adds that the impact of Brexit, ranging from lorry driver shortages to fluctuations in currencies, probably played an important part.
gosub
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gosub
~#
Almost half of all pills sold at UK festivals last year contained no MDMA
You’ve been mugged off mate (apparently Brexit and Covid are to blame)
Cloo
Banana for scale
Unicorns in 'could not be rounded up and given to every citizen' shock
Well Brexshit has demonstrated one thing. There never was any shortage of gammon here.
Those who voted for it form an hodge podge of a coalition.
Oldies seeing it as a way to vote for the 1950s, others glorying in the days of empire and thought we could be great again outside the EU. Some still seemed to think it was still 1940. There was the racist vote of course. And those fools who bought into the shit told by the tabloid press. And there were just those eager to give the establishment a good kicking.
The latter motive I can understand, though think people should pick their battles better.
And whilst not every Brexit voter is a racist, almost every racist is a Brexit supporter. And in view of the narrow margin of victory, it is an obvious truth that Brexit could never have been won without the racist vote, an obvious unwelcome truth that Brexiteers hate having pointed out to them.
Those who voted for it form an hodge podge of a coalition.
Oldies seeing it as a way to vote for the 1950s, others glorying in the days of empire and thought we could be great again outside the EU. Some still seemed to think it was still 1940. There was the racist vote of course. And those fools who bought into the shit told by the tabloid press. And there were just those eager to give the establishment a good kicking.
The latter motive I can understand, though think people should pick their battles better.
And whilst not every Brexit voter is a racist, almost every racist is a Brexit supporter. And in view of the narrow margin of victory, it is an obvious truth that Brexit could never have been won without the racist vote, an obvious unwelcome truth that Brexiteers hate having pointed out to them.
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ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
Well indeed.
And what is depressing is that this . . . .
despite 'wrong' being on the up. . . it is still quite shocking that so many people, in the cold light of day, still think Brexit was right.
I think the word "think" needs to be used advisedly in such cases. Many don't think. They emote. This should not be mistaken for any kind of logical thought process.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
The one thing we know for certain is that people voted leave.
The guessed at motivations and demographics are interesting to contemplate, but the vote was baldly, simply, and coldly ‘leave’. For the whole of the UK.
That has not happened, one day those who go on about honouring the democratic vote will realise that there is a ‘democratic deficit’ and the referendum vote has not been honoured.
The guessed at motivations and demographics are interesting to contemplate, but the vote was baldly, simply, and coldly ‘leave’. For the whole of the UK.
That has not happened, one day those who go on about honouring the democratic vote will realise that there is a ‘democratic deficit’ and the referendum vote has not been honoured.
gosub
~#
Not this Brexit but it was a no brainer. On a different argument main stream media and politicians didn't want
It was not with the support of the whole of the UK. 68 percent of Scots voted to Remain and were ignored.
And in what way has the vote not been honoured, by which I mean what more do you think needs to be done to honour it?
People were promised a have your cake and eat it outcome, all the benefits of membership without actual membership so all the freedoms of being outside too. This was always impossible, they might as well have been voting for rocket-propelled unicorns.
Always intrigued by the mystical purifying powers of the remain vote. Presumably David Cameron and Theresa May's (for example) support for remain at the time of the referendum means the hostile environment and go home van policies which preceded it aren't racist. Or is it that a remain supporter can act in racist ways but the way they voted renders them immune from being racist themselves? All you have to do is accept the EU into your heart
dessiato
🇪🇸 españa te quiero
The courts of justice are about to give the verdict about the rights of EU citizenship which were stripped from us due to Brexit.
curia.europa.eu
thread here
www.urban75.net
CURIA - Streaming - Court of Justice of the European Union
Court of Justice of the European Union
thread here
EU citizenship decision, live, now
For those of us who are negatively affected by Brexit, WRT our rights of move etc, the Court of Justice is about to deliver its ruling about our rights to EU citizenship having been stripped from us. https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/jcms/p1_1477137/en/
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Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
We’ll be getting socialism, free of the EU shackles, any day now
dessiato
🇪🇸 españa te quiero
And pigs will fly
Those with racist views who supported EU membership are few in number. Most of the racists I know of saw Brexit as a means to keep all the bloody foreigners out.Always intrigued by the mystical purifying powers of the remain vote. Presumably David Cameron and Theresa May's (for example) support for remain at the time of the referendum means the hostile environment and go home van policies which preceded it aren't racist. Or is it that a remain supporter can act in racist ways but the way they voted renders them immune from being racist themselves? All you have to do is accept the EU into your heart
philosophical
Well-Known Member
Let me make it clear I hate that the UK voted to leave the EU.
It hasn’t happened because Northern Ireland is being treated differently to the rest of the UK.
Struggling to understand what you're saying.... Are you implying that because policies such as 'hostile environment' were implemented by May/Cameron (who apparently campaigned for remain), everyone who wanted to remain as part of the EU is a racist?Always intrigued by the mystical purifying powers of the remain vote. Presumably David Cameron and Theresa May's (for example) support for remain at the time of the referendum means the hostile environment and go home van policies which preceded it aren't racist. Or is it that a remain supporter can act in racist ways but the way they voted renders them immune from being racist themselves? All you have to do is accept the EU into your heart
We know the reasons for that. Half the population there feels no allegience to the UK and don't want a land border with the Republic. There is a desire to avoid a return to the troubles.
Trying to foce the issue actually risks driving Northern Ireland out of the uk. As well as playing fast and loose with peace itself.
The essential problem is that half the people owe their allegiance to Ireland, the other half to the UK. This is the impossible dilemma Brexit has thrown at our feet. A hard border between north and south appears to be unacceptable to many. The alternative of some sort of border in the Irish Sea is equally unacceptable to many others. How this circle is squared in the interests of peace is actually more important than a united UK, particularly in view of the large Scottish Remain vote being ignored resulting in an independent Scotland coming ever nearer anyway.
One of the rotten fruits of Brexit is going to be the break up of the UK.
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