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A thank you to Brexiteers.

Have also posted this in the appropriate UK Covid thread, but I thought it might produce some discussion here.
I know that expressing a voting preference for REFUK doesn't exactly equate to pro-Brexit, but I'm assuming it's a pretty close fit.



e2a: should have said; the data is from the latest (Wave 21) British Electoral Study with a 30k+ sample size which gave a REFUK sub-set sample size of 478.

I’m surprised by that. I know farage is pro-covid but that low vaccination rate in the older age group of reform uk fans is kind of alarming. Those are people who are properly committed to their delusions.
 
I’m surprised by that. I know farage is pro-covid but that low vaccination rate in the older age group of reform uk fans is kind of alarming. Those are people who are properly committed to their delusions.
Yeah, normally I'd warn against thinner sample sizes at the more aged end, but with the REFuks I'd imagine that the bulk of the 478 sample were up there in the over 60 cohorts.
 
Want to take this opportunity to remind any lexiters here that they have quite deliberately caused things to be shit for workers who drive stuff for us back and forth.
For what?
For some kind of ignorant pose that they are building a better world?
Every leave vote was a conscious act, they are totally responsible for the shit, and also responsible for this huge majority for these ‘get Brexit done’ bastards.
 
I've experience of this - mail order to the EU is fucked
Sticking the customs label on it is the easy bit - though time consuming if you have a lot of mail order
When items arrive there is a lottery as whether the recipient has to pay a tax on it - a lottery decided by if the letter gets picked out or not. Most often it does IME.
The tax charge is WAY over what the acutall VAT element is - its extortionate

In theory it is possible to get the customer to pay the VAT element ahead of posting, which would remove this lottery and over charging aspect
To become eligible to be able to charge the tax costs thousands of pounds to register - big companies can do this, small traders no chance
Then the VAT element is different for every country so to be able to calculate this and charge at the point of sale is a computing nightmare
-so small traders have no chance

Then there's lost post. Non-UK post is incredibly slow and very often lost this last year, and this xmas was next level. Covid is a big factor for sure, but it would make sense that the extra level of bureaucracy is also slowing things down.
how post ever gets lost I dont know, but its happening a lot now. Tracked post ( a lot more expensive) is becoming a necessity

Complaints of lost post and unexpected (and high) charges are many
Makes total sense that people are giving up on it
 
On paper it seems easy to deal with new import/export times and costs. The reality (aside from short term better wages for drivers) this is a shitshow of paperwork, government underfunding and much more.

If you are happy to live with this 'short term pains' then your grandchildren and/or great grandchildren might get a Sunlit benefit 😊

Anyone who thinks the Tories can manage something like this (while lining their pockets) is a fucking fool.

I empathise with ANTI-EU rhetoric as I do with many trading countries. However none of you can consider this a good idea (short term) or a good idea under this Beshitted government or failures.
 
Yes. But now you just have to stick a customs label on stuff to Europe. It's no massive hardship.

Which new rules make stuff "go missing" in the post?
Very informative, if puzzling thread from MrBigGreenBookshop ("A one man book-selling machine") There's clearly a problem but the mystery deepens as the thread develops:

Germany seems to be a particular problem for this phenomena



however, Jonathon Stott has also had problems with Italy as has Sharon Hattersly, a Brownie leader



Sweden ( where incidentally there has been citings of drones flying over restricted places in the last few days) also seems to be a blackhole for postal deliveries



Some good news about Hawaii though



Although depressingly all isn't even good in the States however Canada sounds promising



Seems the US also has problems with the EU as well but not clear

https://twitter.com/j_pineo/status/1484286255835795457?s=20

This business has got problems posting anywhere outside the UK ( which to be fair to MrGreenBookshop is actually his original complaint not Brexit)

https://twitter.com/BMonstersBooks/status/1484452191289192451?s=20

But some don't and BigGreenBookshop is going to find out how they do it and he can't

https://twitter.com/Biggreenbooks/status/1484275089503928325?s=20

https://twitter.com/Biggreenbooks/status/1484279005721284614?s=20
 
the USA postal service is in a degree of meltdown - it is now more expensive to post to the USA than Australia from the UK
there are overlapping problems with covid and brexit and god knows what other factors
 
they only recently sacked their trumpian postmaster didn't they? His aim did seem to have been to destroy the system.
 
Postage/delivery between here and the UK , pre and post Brexit has always been a little hit and miss. For example pre brexit a present from the UK never arrived although the sender got her money back from Royal Mail, post Brexit I sent a signed hardcopy of a legal document back to the UK which arrived within 4 days.

Deliveries within the EU aren't always quicker than deliveries from the UK and have on a couple of occasions never arrived. Transport costs can be very high within the EU and some of the UK transport costs are eye watering.
 
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