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A thank you to Brexiteers.

" there are thousands of animals backed up on farm, pigs developing respiratory diseases, increased reports of tail biting and facing imminent crisis that thousands will be slaughtered on farm and the government has the opportunity to urgently act in the short term"
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Although Frost has blamed his resignation on PLan B etc etc I expect (instinctual guess) its very much to do with orders given about the direction of border negotiations. Sounds like Boris has slammed the brakes on Art 16 etc and Frost isnt having it
 
Although Frost has blamed his resignation on PLan B etc etc I expect (instinctual guess) its very much to do with orders given about the direction of border negotiations. Sounds like Boris has slammed the brakes on Art 16 etc and Frost isnt having it
Of course; the rest was just his final factional leverage.
 
Although Frost has blamed his resignation on PLan B etc etc I expect (instinctual guess) its very much to do with orders given about the direction of border negotiations. Sounds like Boris has slammed the brakes on Art 16 etc and Frost isnt having it
Think it might be the reverse. That a climbdown is all sorted, but now all of a sudden it's the last thing Johnson needs.
 
Think it might be the reverse. That a climbdown is all sorted, but now all of a sudden it's the last thing Johnson needs.
wouldnt that suggest Frost was on board with the climbdown...and if he was why would he resign now for maximum negative impact? I dont know tbh... i get the feeling this has sabotage written on it
 
wouldnt that suggest Frost was on board with the climbdown...and if he was why would he resign now for maximum negative impact? I dont know tbh... i get the feeling this has sabotage written on it
Yeah, despite all the distractionary guff, it looks like Johnson told Frost they were totally caving-in to the suprastate and he flounced.
 
i think this thread has died because there is absolutely nobody left, anywhere, who has the energy to pretend to think that brexit is going great, or will ever in future seem like it was a good idea.
Not even the government who were elected to do a brexit, nobody.
its like we're all limping along, we know we're hobbled, hopefully its not terminal let's just not talk about it cos its all a bit embarrassing an accident we did a while ago.
I disagree with a bit. I think history is going to show we didn't have any choice but to leave. Granted it could have gone better but i think it's within the nature if thing it turned out the way it has.

That we got out without kurplunuking EUrope is to the good (though we may still yet kurplunuking the UK
 
wouldnt that suggest Frost was on board with the climbdown.
Yes it would. He only plays a Brexiteer on TV, after all. More to the point, it's been pretty strongly and reliably rumoured over the last week or so that a climbdown is at the Is and Ts stage. I think Frost either doesn't want to complicit in kicking off a trade war, or else Johnson only actually wants delay and a theatrical row with the EU, which isn't really worth Frost's while, given that it would be transparently all about Johnson, and Johnson isn't exactly at the height of his powers.
 
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