A thank you to Brexiteers.

[BobDavis]

Yes France have done it without much disruption. We were in Dordogne in the summer. Covid passes required for campsites & restaurants & masks until you sat down. UK passes accepted. The second barcode always scanned ok. Masks in shops markets & in very busy town centres. We wern’t sure about in the street but a Gendarme told us to put them on. Tourist area was rammed Jul/Aug with trippers from all over Europe. Little social distancing but keeping mask requirement for crowded places seems to have done the job.

 

[Artaxerxes]

 

[Artaxerxes]

 

[ska invita]

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article here
tldr, residency applications getting rejected, new moves/sales collapsed and cars with UK plates getting impounded + comedy appeal to the human rights court (presumably not the ECJ!) over the above

 

[brogdale]

article here
tldr, residency applications getting rejected, new moves/sales collapsed and cars with UK plates getting impounded + comedy appeal to the human rights court (presumably not the ECJ!) over the above

taking back control

 

[Badgers]

taking back control

Sunlit Uplands

 

[brogdale]

Sunlit Uplands

yeah, but they really are taking back control...and why wouldn't they?

 

[teqniq]

Prisoners driving trucks now. I love the smell of desperation in the morning:

 

[ska invita]

Prisoners driving trucks now. I love the smell of desperation in the morning:

for those not tempted to watch the video - watch the video

 

[BobDavis]

article here
tldr, residency applications getting rejected, new moves/sales collapsed and cars with UK plates getting impounded + comedy appeal to the human rights court (presumably not the ECJ!) over the above

Read the article carefully & then see what is going on here. It is playing to the Express brexit voter readers “oh they are punishing us I’m even more glad I voted leave now”. It takes a number of unrelated facts & creates a false narrative that Brits who have been resident in Spain for years driving locally reg cars & have done everything correctly are getting chucked out which is not true.

All this really boils down to is that Brit second home owners who have never been resident in Spain are now limited to 90days in every 180 due to ending of free movement. Plenty are not even home owners they own mobile homes & caravans on campsites & holiday parks. Before brexit many of them would stop down in Spain for 9mnths of the year coming & going as they liked. Many still cannot get it through their heads they can now only stay for 90days & then go home for 90days.

The impounding of UK reg cars is not what it seems either. If you go there for 90days in your UK car no problem. Before brexit Brits would drive down in their cars & stop 6-9mnths & drive home no problem. What is a problem & rightly so is Brits who drive a UK reg car to their place in France or Spain & keep it there for years flying home & driving the car locally with no UK tax & insurance. This practice has been going on for decades & people have been getting away with it presumably until they have an accident.

Before brexit Brits have been used to casually dossing around in Spain staying as long as they like & coming & going as they please. Now they can’t. I can’t really see a way around this though as your passport is now date stamped on arrival from UK to any EU country so they can see if you have stayed for more than 90days. There has been plenty about this on caravan & motorhome forums but there is no visa for extending the 90day tourist limit.

 

[ska invita]

Read the article carefully & then see what is going on here. It is playing to the Express brexit voter readers “oh they are punishing us I’m even more glad I voted leave now”. It takes a number of unrelated facts & creates a false narrative that Brits who have been resident in Spain for years driving locally reg cars & have done everything correctly are getting chucked out which is not true.

All this really boils down to is that Brit second home owners who have never been resident in Spain are now limited to 90days in every 180 due to ending of free movement. Plenty are not even home owners they own mobile homes & caravans on campsites & holiday parks. Before brexit many of them would stop down in Spain for 9mnths of the year coming & going as they liked. Many still cannot get it through their heads they can now only stay for 90days & then go home for 90days.

The impounding of UK reg cars is not what it seems either. If you go there for 90days in your UK car no problem. Before brexit Brits would drive down in their cars & stop 6-9mnths & drive home no problem. What is a problem & rightly so is Brits who drive a UK reg car to their place in France or Spain & keep it there for years flying home & driving the car locally with no UK tax & insurance. This practice has been going on for decades & people have been getting away with it presumably until they have an accident.

Before brexit Brits have been used to casually dossing around in Spain staying as long as they & coming & going as they please. Now they can’t. I can’t really see a way around this though as your passport is now date stamped on entry to any EU country so they can see if you have stayed for more than 90days. There has been plenty about this on caravan & motorhome forums but there is no visa for extending the 90day tourist limit.

thats all true but i know a "property owner" who was resident in spain for years who has had to leave/return the UK - it is happening to those with insufficient income to satisfy the new bureaucracy.

 

[The39thStep]

thats all true but i know a "property owner" who was resident in spain for years who has had to leave/return the UK - it is happening to those with insufficient income to satisfy the new bureaucracy.

What do you mean by a “property owner” ?

 

[Ax^]

Read the article carefully & then see what is going on here. It is playing to the Express brexit voter readers “oh they are punishing us I’m even more glad I voted leave now”. It takes a number of unrelated facts & creates a false narrative that Brits who have been resident in Spain for years driving locally reg cars & have done everything correctly are getting chucked out which is not true.

All this really boils down to is that Brit second home owners who have never been resident in Spain are now limited to 90days in every 180 due to ending of free movement. Plenty are not even home owners they own mobile homes & caravans on campsites & holiday parks. Before brexit many of them would stop down in Spain for 9mnths of the year coming & going as they liked. Many still cannot get it through their heads they can now only stay for 90days & then go home for 90days.

The impounding of UK reg cars is not what it seems either. If you go there for 90days in your UK car no problem. Before brexit Brits would drive down in their cars & stop 6-9mnths & drive home no problem. What is a problem & rightly so is Brits who drive a UK reg car to their place in France or Spain & keep it there for years flying home & driving the car locally with no UK tax & insurance. This practice has been going on for decades & people have been getting away with it presumably until they have an accident.

Before brexit Brits have been used to casually dossing around in Spain staying as long as they like & coming & going as they please. Now they can’t. I can’t really see a way around this though as your passport is now date stamped on arrival from UK to any EU country so they can see if you have stayed for more than 90days. There has been plenty about this on caravan & motorhome forums but there is no visa for extending the 90day tourist limit.

Got to love express readers, if you vote for this you will lose freedom of movement


vote and lose freedom of movement,

Bloody Europeans punishing us for voting for brexit


the eu should send all expats who appeals to the Human right courts tiny little violins in the post

 

[spitfire]

Prisoners driving trucks now. I love the smell of desperation in the morning:

OMG that made me howl with laughter. Amazing.

 

[NoXion]

The US and Italy are also experiencing truck driver shortages:

A Trucking Crisis Has the U.S. Looking for More Drivers Abroad

A shortage of truckers across the U.S. has become so severe that companies are trying to bring in drivers from abroad like seemingly never before.

www.bloomberg.com

Il lamento delle ditte dell'autotrasporto: mancano 17mila camionisti. Alzare gli stipendi? No,"chiamiamoli dall'estero" - Il Fatto Quotidiano

“Sempre meno giovani italiani vogliono mettersi al volante di un Tir”, esordisce così il Sole 24 Ore raccogliendo, in prima pagina, l’allarme di Anita, l’associazione degli autotrasportatori che fa capo a Confindustria (proprietaria del 61% dello stesso quotidiano). L’Associazione lamenta la...

www.ilfattoquotidiano.it

A common theme is early retirement precipitated by the pandemic, combined with crap pay and strenuous working conditions that keep new workers away. Haulage companies in the US, like their UK counterparts, are calling for fewer visa restrictions. In the meantime, they are looking as far afield as South Africa to fill in their driver seats.

The response to the crisis by Matteo Salvini, as quoted in the il Fatto Quotidiano, is also revealing: "I am in contact with entrepreneurs and do not find staff because they hear it is more comfortable for me to stay at home without doing anything. On the other hand, a tool that was meant to create work creates problems and undeclared work. Staying at home for three years with 500 euros a month is an insult to those who wake up every morning and go to work for the same amount" (translated from Italian).

Apparently even within the paradise of frictionless labour movement, they can't entirely fill the gaps just by hiring cheaper labour from elsewhere.

 

[Ax^]

people not wanting to do jobs for shite money

its a universal problem and their always some right wing dick head trying to say solved the problem by cutting benifits

shocking news, the american bit is more interesting as their complicated immigration policy will put people off just like the uk atm

 

[Badgers]

Thanks for this especially

 

[Ax^]

hmm now i wonder which party voted for this

Every UK MP who just voted to ALLOW water companies to continue dumping RAW SEWAGE in rivers and the sea - Carvemag.com

Tory scumbags

 

[Badgers]

 

[brogdale]

Said that 6 months before Grenfell.

 

[brogdale]

hmm now i wonder which party voted for this

Every UK MP who just voted to ALLOW water companies to continue dumping RAW SEWAGE in rivers and the sea - Carvemag.com

Tory scumbags

 

[Raheem]

Do you want the raw sewage in your house then? Sorry, but this is a clear Brexit benefit.

 

[Pickman's model]

Do you want the raw sewage in your house then? Sorry, but this is a clear Brexit benefit.

We've got a shit in number ten

 

[Raheem]

We've got a shit in number ten

And wouldn't we be better off if he were poisoning fish?

 

[Pickman's model]

And wouldn't we be better off if he were poisoning fish?

I'd prefer it if fish were poisoning him

 

[Ax^]

the great stink of 2021


leading the world from london

 

[Fairweather]

I’ve tried to bring this to the attention of the members of an angling forum that I’m on but the Tory cunt that runs the show has deleted my numerous attempts to do so.

 

[two sheds]

We could all go round and have a shit in Rees Mogg's garden, show him we agree with his new policy.

 

[Poot]

We could all go round and have a shit in Rees Mogg's garden, show him we agree with his new policy.

I'd be almost certain that he employs a shit-cleaner-upper amongst his staff, who's signed a contract never to divulge what's been flung/excreted into the garden.

 

[philosophical]

In PMQ’s today that cunt Johnson more or less announced that he will invoke article 16.
To end the protocol he fully backed, and got elected on in 2019.