A thank you to Brexiteers.

[Pickman's model]

whats the question? are you asking why there shouldnt be trade wars because its bad for workers?

Here's a hint, the question's in post 8236

 

[bimble]

I asked how it benefits French workers. Care to have a go answering as Ska has gone all quiet?

I suspect you're being extra stupid on purpose now. I agree with you that making it harder to export stuff is a bad idea and does not benefit workers in the country where that happens.

 

[ska invita]

Stopping French exports? How does that benefit French workers then? Personally Christmas will be fine without French origin food. ska invita

btw its not just French origin food that comes through Calais, as Dominc Raab found out recently

 

[Pickman's model]

btw its not just French origin food that comes through Calais, as Dominc Raab found out recently

If a week is a long time in politics then three years is an eternity

 

[gosub]

Oh god is somebody shutting the sea again

 

[Badgers]

French Europe Minister Clément Beaune told Europe 1 radio: "The UK depends on our energy exports, they think they can live alone while also beating up on Europe and, given that it doesn't work, they engage in aggressive one-upmanship."

Sounds fair

 

[Spymaster]

The trigger is fishers are being denied permits, which they have previously been given

It's a bit more complicated than that.

Jersey and France had a reciprocal arrangement to grant licences to each others fishing fleets in each others waters. Historically, hundreds of French boats fish in Jersey waters but only a handful of Jersey boats (about 5) fish in French waters. There have been agreements between both parties to prevent overfishing of the Jersey waters, one of which is the licensing of boats. Jersey has issued licences to French boats who have been able to prove that they've complied with the requirements of the agreement between 2017 and 2020. However, not all French boats fish Jersey waters and many that historically haven't, have applied for licences just in case they want to in the future. They want the right to do so even if they haven't done so in the relatively recent past. Others have fished Jersey waters in the past but not in accordance with the licensing terms, or at least couldn't prove that they had. After the last spat, Jersey extended an amnesty to French boats to give them time to produce the required documentation. That's now due to expire and those French boats who've been unable to produce the documentation (a lot of it has apparently been ‘lost in the post’) are kicking off.

Because there's a massive disparity between the numbers of French boats fishing Jersey waters and Jersey boats fishing French ones, the French can't respond in kind by refusing licences to Jersey boats. On the contrary, they have argued that they’ve granted licences to 100% of Jersey applicants but that’s only 5 boats and their stocks aren’t being overfished anyway because much of the Normandy fleet is depleting Jersey waters not French ones. So they threaten the power supply instead!

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

oh sure, theyre super strategic, especially from a naval point of view, just id expect imperial nations like france and spain would pick an opportune moment to grab them back.

And Morocco nabs Cueta, Melilla, Alhucemas, Penon & the Chafarinas. A cheeky grab of the Canaries too, as valid, if not more than Spain's ally's claim to the Falklands.

And France, pisstaking fuckers, their overseas territories, pardonnez-moi, collectivities, are scattered around the globe as much as the UK's, Saint Pierre & Miquelon exists purely to allow France access to Canada's fishing waters, to plunder North Atlantic cod and other species. There's a theme here...

 

[Ax^]

and on st Crispen day...!!

 

[philosophical]

Brexit fishing power play – The EU could cut Jersey and Britain’s electricity supply over the UK’s failure to provide sufficient fishing licences to the French, says France’s EU affairs minister, Clément Beaune. “Enough already, we have an agreement negotiated by France, by Michel Barnier, and it should be applied 100%. It isn’t being. In the next few days … we will take measures at the European level or nationally to apply pressure on the United Kingdom.” The UK partly relies on electricity from France. Under the post-Brexit agreement struck on Christmas Eve, the EU can take measures “proportionate to the alleged failure by the respondent party”. That could be extended to the energy supply to the rest of the UK, but would need to be proportional and agreed to by other member states.

No biggie for leave voters who said they need us more than we need them.
Tories will be delighted in the ‘high skilled high paid jobs’ in the candle industry.

 

[ska invita]

And Morocco nabs Cueta, Melilla, Alhucemas, Penon & the Chafarinas. A cheeky grab of the Canaries too, as valid, if not more than Spain's ally's claim to the Falklands.

And France, pisstaking fuckers, their overseas territories, pardonnez-moi, collectivities, are scattered around the globe as much as the UK's, Saint Pierre & Miquelon exists purely to allow France access to Canada's fishing waters, to plunder North Atlantic cod and other species. There's a theme here...

The theme is imperialism and national competition yeah?

 

[dessiato]

I was in Grimsby/Cleethorpes last week. The area was Brexit, I've seldom seen anywhere so bigoted or so blinkered, and I say this as someone who has regularly been exposed to racism there.

I'm pleased I don't live there anymore. They deserve all the shit they're getting.

 

[MickiQ]

btw its not just French origin food that comes through Calais, as Dominc Raab found out recently

That's the most redundant article I've read for a while
Once you get past the first sentence
Dominic Raab has come under fire for saying he "hadn't quite understood"

then there is pretty much no point for the rest of it, God he's thick isn't he?

 

[dessiato]

That's the most redundant article I've read for a while
Once you get past the first sentence
Dominic Raab has come under fire for saying he "hadn't quite understood"

then there is pretty much no point for the rest of it, God he's thick isn't he?

But he's in government so he knows best, doesn't he?

 

[Spymaster]

You mean they've just been lulling the UK into a false sense of security over the past several centuries

Indeed. Nearly 8 centuries in the case of Jersey.

 

[The39thStep]

I was in Grimsby/Cleethorpes last week. The area was Brexit, I've seldom seen anywhere so bigoted or so blinkered, and I say this as someone who has regularly been exposed to racism there.

I'm pleased I don't live there anymore. They deserve all the shit they're getting.

What’s the politics like in your new area in Spain ?
I remember you saying the last area was full of far right Vox supporters

 

[bimble]

But he's in government so he knows best, doesn't he?

He is famous all over again today.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

He is famous all over again today.

 

[MickiQ]

He is famous all over again today.

I stand by my previous assessment of him

 

[dessiato]

What’s the politics like in your new area in Spain ?
I remember you saying the last area was full of far right Vox supporters

This town seems very different, and although very small much more cosmopolitan. The only person I've spoken to about politics is a 91 year old whose parents were local Republican organisers during the war.

Interestingly as he spoke about it his voice dropped to barely above a whisper. Franco was born about an hour and a half from here.

To the point, I think the area is likely to be politically mixed.

 

[gosub]

That's the most redundant article I've read for a while
Once you get past the first sentence
Dominic Raab has come under fire for saying he "hadn't quite understood"

then there is pretty much no point for the rest of it, God he's thick isn't he?

Just checking you are a bloke. If not, such rampant misogyny is uncalled for

 

[Pickman's model]

then there is pretty much no point for the rest of it, God he's thick isn't he?

Politician in thick as pigshit shock

Tell me it ain't so

 

[Ax^]

Dominic Rabb in thick as pigshit shock

Tell me it ain't so

ftfy

 

[Pickman's model]

ftfy

Not just raab tho is it. There's another 600+ stupid wankers in the commons alone

 

[Ax^]

Rabb a special case mind

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The theme is imperialism and national competition yeah?

Synonym = cuntism.

 

[Badgers]

Cheap European pork floods UK market as mass pig cull begins

Farming's Brexit-induced labour crisis has been worsened by cheap EU pork flooding the market.

www.thelondoneconomic.com

 

[TopCat]

I was in Grimsby/Cleethorpes last week. The area was Brexit, I've seldom seen anywhere so bigoted or so blinkered, and I say this as someone who has regularly been exposed to racism there.

I'm pleased I don't live there anymore. They deserve all the shit they're getting.

All the people of Grimbsy and Cleethorpes deserve shit?

 

[Pickman's model]

Rabb a special case mind

Not to be confused with raab

 

[Pickman's model]

I was in Grimsby/Cleethorpes last week. The area was Brexit, I've seldom seen anywhere so bigoted or so blinkered, and I say this as someone who has regularly been exposed to racism there.

I'm pleased I don't live there anymore. They deserve all the shit they're getting.

They're getting lots of shit they don't deserve. And I wonder who is expected to live in all the flash houses being built on fields on the outskirts of Grimsby.