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A thank you to Brexiteers.

Shame.
Was hoping everybody would try a vegetarian Christmas.
After they come back from the previous nights midnight Mass where they respect the commandment ‘thou shalt not kill’.
I mean Christmas is supposed to be a Christian religious event in it’s origins.
 
great news, nobody from Europe can visit here unless they first buy a passport. (Estimated to be about 200 million people who have the Id cards but not a passport).
That doesn't sound like a good idea. Lots of them will be tourists, or business people, bringing in money.
 
Still odd they are writing to people with C1 category on their licence, about HGV jobs, when a 7.5 tonne truck is certainly not a HGV.

And, where's my fucking letter? :mad:

Not that I would ever drive a HGV, I drove a 7.5 tonne truck once, and that scared the fucking shit out of me.
I have C1 and C1E (but not C or CE) on my licence. Does that mean I can drive up to 7.5 tonne?

I regularly drive a 3.5 tonne at work, but wouldn't want to go any bigger than that, certainly not without additional training.

I haven't had a letter either though, so I suppose it's all hypothetical anyway.
 
great news, nobody from Europe can visit here unless they first buy a passport. (Estimated to be about 200 million people who have the Id cards but not a passport).

The leave voters have arrangements in place to check those passports on the land border between the EU and the UK…..oh hang on…..it looks like the moron leave voters are magically able to take back control of the borders by not controlling the borders.
It is impressive that some leave voters on here retro justify their nasty xenophobic vote by inferring they were secretly voting for a United Ireland.
 
great news, nobody from Europe can visit here unless they first buy a passport. (Estimated to be about 200 million people who have the Id cards but not a passport).
it is most worrying to me because there are hundreds of thousands of EU citizens living here with their sketchy settled and presettled status who only have ID cards, adding another level of precarity.
also i haven't heard about this rule change other than on here - lots of people will be unaware,
can you now leave the UK to the EU on an ID card like you used to? Maybe yes, though you certainly cant return.
mad situation
 
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it is most worrying to me because there are many EU citizens living here with their sketchy settled and presettled status who only have ID cards, adding another level of precarity.
also i haven't heard about this rule change other than on hear - lots of people will be unaware,
can you leave the UK to the EU on an ID card? Maybe yes, though you certainly cant return.
mad situation
I hadn't heard of it before either and it came into force yesterday. The government website seems to have published the announcement just yesterday too. Which seems not genius.
 
re Turkeys ive seen a scramble over turkeys in a supermarlet before...it msutve been xmas eve or the day before....none out on the shelves...then some got wheeled out from storage and a mob of about 20 people who were waiting by the dooors descended on the cart...it never reached the shelves and there were less turkeys than customers

Theres going to be some scenes id expect
 
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it is most worrying to me because there are many EU citizens living here with their sketchy settled and presettled status who only have ID cards, adding another level of precarity.
also i haven't heard about this rule change other than on hear - lots of people will be unaware,
can you leave the UK to the EU on an ID card? Maybe yes, though you certainly cant return.
mad situation

I was speaking to a Portuguese family last night who live and work in Cambridge about this. They said they'd been advised by the Portuguese embassy that those with settled and pre settled can still use ID cards for travel in and out of the UK until 2025 .

Over here we all have to apply for new biometric residency cards , including fingerprints , as part of an EU crackdown on fraud cards
 
Shame.
Was hoping everybody would try a vegetarian Christmas.
After they come back from the previous nights midnight Mass where they respect the commandment ‘thou shalt not kill’.
I mean Christmas is supposed to be a Christian religious event in it’s origins.
"Catholics were expected to abstain from eating meat or products derived from animals such as butter or dairy on Fridays and holy days. Christmas Eve being one of the designated days on which to abstain, most good Catholics would eat fish, typically cooked in oil."

...what do Irish Catholics eat at xmas?
 
re Turkeys ive seen a scramble over turkeys in a supermarlet before...it msutve been xmas eve or the day before....none out on the shelves...then some got wheeled out from storage and a mob of about 20 people who were waiting by the dooors descended on the cart...it never reached the shelves and there were less turkeys than customers

Theres going to be some scenes id expect

The supermarkets become increasingly feral the closer you get to Christmas even at the best of times
 
I was speaking to a Portuguese family last night who live and work in Cambridge about this. They said they'd been advised by the Portuguese embassy that those with settled and pre settled can still use ID cards for travel in and out of the UK until 2025 .

Over here we all have to apply for new biometric residency cards , including fingerprints , as part of an EU crackdown on fraud cards

i hope this works
if border control are stopping travel on ID cards, then the only way you can still get in on an ID card is by proving pre/settled status
there are already stories that this status information is only available to border control via passport details
 
And now they are insecure ID cards. Last year, they were just ID cards. Now supposedly they are a security problem.

Wasn't that long ago you could get an Italian travel pass that was little more than a fold of printed cardboard with a passport photo glued onto it. I knew a few people from outside Europe who made it to the UK with a bootleg version of this document and a bogus Italian name. One guy had simply stuck a vowel on the end of his very obviously slavic surname and that somehow did the trick.
 
Wasn't that long ago you could get an Italian travel pass that was little more than a fold of printed cardboard with a passport photo glued onto it. I knew a few people from outside Europe who made it to the UK with a bootleg version of this document and a bogus Italian name. One guy had simply stuck a vowel on the end of his very obviously slavic surname and that somehow did the trick.
Like the auld one year passports
 
The article addresses that point, namely that even if they start now French and polish farmers will be very lucky to get the birds into Britain.
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lol at 'its not clear whether EVEN turkey supplies will be protected', as if that silly traditional meal on that one day is the most important thing. This is why my Brazil theory, Johnson knows that whilst people might we willing to ignore a chronic shortage of chicken or whatever, and just eat something else instead, leaving this proud nation turkeyless on xmas day would be serious.
 
Anyway, at some point the government might well have to step in and prioritise deliveries of food and other essentials. Which would be yet another case of a fanatical free marketeer government shitting the bed to the point where it ends up being forced to do state communism instead.
 
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