A thank you to Brexiteers.

[philosophical]

"Catholics were expected to abstain from eating meat or products derived from animals such as butter or dairy on Fridays and holy days. Christmas Eve being one of the designated days on which to abstain, most good Catholics would eat fish, typically cooked in oil."

...what do Irish Catholics eat at xmas?

Cabbage and potato maybe.

 

[Pickman's model]

lol at 'its not clear whether EVEN turkey supplies will be protected', as if that silly traditional meal on that one day is the most important thing. This is why my Brazil theory, Johnson knows that whilst people might we willing to ignore a chronic shortage of chicken or whatever, and just eat something else instead, leaving this proud nation turkeyless on xmas day would be serious.

Yeh your Brazil theory doesn't hold water because a) they don't really export here anyway, b) Brazil's is not a command economy, c) if the amount of time it takes stuff to get here from Asia has doubled, if the cost of a shipping container from Asia has gone up 14 times to $18,000 dollars, don't you think that there may be some delays and cost implications for putative poultry exports from Brazil? Add to that that the warehouses in UK ports are pretty much full, that there are difficulties ATM with moving round stuff already in the country, and it seems to me obvious that this notion is a non-starter.

 

[The39thStep]

One of the best things about moving to Portugal is that they don't eat the shite traditional roast turkey dinner at Xmas that I must have had every bloody year in the UK

 

[Pickman's model]

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[bimble]

Yeh your Brazil theory doesn't hold water because a) they don't really export here anyway, b) Brazil's is not a command economy, c) if the amount of time it takes stuff to get here from Asia has doubled, if the cost of a shipping container from Asia has gone up 14 times to $18,000 dollars, don't you think that there may be some delays and cost implications for putative poultry exports from Brazil? Add to that that the warehouses in UK ports are pretty much full, that there are difficulties ATM with moving round stuff already in the country, and it seems to me obvious that this notion is a non-starter.

What do you think Johnson asked Bolsonaro for ?
Just found this, hadn't seen it before:

Boris Johnson asked for ‘emergency’ food deal, says Bolsonaro

No 10 denies Brazilian president’s claim but some speculate food item is turkeys for Christmas

www.theguardian.com

I'm not saying it would work, just think it (turkeys on xmas day) is a topic that bothers the PM, a lot more than it should, & a lot more than what there is for schools and care homes to feed people day to day.

 

[TopCat]

Shame.
Was hoping everybody would try a vegetarian Christmas.
After they come back from the previous nights midnight Mass where they respect the commandment ‘thou shalt not kill’.
I mean Christmas is supposed to be a Christian religious event in it’s origins.

Are you a Christian?

 

[ska invita]

Wasn't that long ago you could get an Italian travel pass that was little more than a fold of printed cardboard with a passport photo glued onto it. I knew a few people from outside Europe who made it to the UK with a bootleg version of this document and a bogus Italian name. One guy had simply stuck a vowel on the end of his very obviously slavic surname and that somehow did the trick.

Proper ID cards though are as hard to get as passports and increasingly include biometric details

 

[Badgers]

One of the best things about moving to Portugal is that they don't eat the shite traditional roast turkey dinner at Xmas that I must have had every bloody year in the UK

I see it as ironic annual torment

 

[SpookyFrank]

Proper ID cards though are as hard to get as passports and increasingly include biometric details

Yes this is the direction of travel (no pun intended) everywhere.

 

[Badgers]

What do you think Johnson asked Bolsonaro for ?
Just found this, hadn't seen it before:

I'm not saying it would work, just think it (turkeys on xmas day) is a topic that bothers the PM, a lot more than it should, & a lot more than what there is for schools and care homes to feed people day to day.

SAVING CHRISTMAS

 

[bimble]

I see it as ironic annual torment

it is traditional for jews to get a Chinese takeaway on that day but last year i did the whole xmas thing, 3 of us, one small mini-chicken each.

 

[The39thStep]

I see it as ironic annual torment

Funny thing is that I like turkey any other time of the year.

 

[Spymaster]

I have C1 and C1E (but not C or CE) on my licence. Does that mean I can drive up to 7.5 tonne?

Yes. And ambulances.

Everyone who got their licences before 1997 will have it.

I haven't had a letter either though, so I suppose it's all hypothetical anyway.

I haven't either so they must have filtered them in some way. In cupid_stunt's case they probably excluded everyone born in the eighteen hundreds.

 

[SpookyFrank]

What do you think Johnson asked Bolsonaro for ?
Just found this, hadn't seen it before:

Boris Johnson asked for ‘emergency’ food deal, says Bolsonaro

No 10 denies Brazilian president’s claim but some speculate food item is turkeys for Christmas

www.theguardian.com

I'm not saying it would work, just think it (turkeys on xmas day) is a topic that bothers the PM, a lot more than it should, & a lot more than what there is for schools and care homes to feed people day to day.

Starving schoolkids and people in care homes doesn't lead to shitty front pages in the tabloids though. Ruining Christmas on the other hand.

Also care homes need less food than they used to because Johnson's government has already killed so many of their residents.

 

[Cerv]

Might as well start a pool now on picking what date they’ll announce that the the visa allowance will be extended beyond 24/12.

I’m taking 23/12

I couldn't have been more wrong! as they've announced yesterday that these temporary visas will extend into Feb or March.

 

[Badgers]

I couldn't have been more wrong! as they've announced yesterday that these temporary visas will extend into Feb or March.

Everything will be fine by then

 

[Pickman's model]

What do you think Johnson asked Bolsonaro for ?
Just found this, hadn't seen it before:

Boris Johnson asked for ‘emergency’ food deal, says Bolsonaro

No 10 denies Brazilian president’s claim but some speculate food item is turkeys for Christmas

www.theguardian.com

I'm not saying it would work, just think it (turkeys on xmas day) is a topic that bothers the PM, a lot more than it should, & a lot more than what there is for schools and care homes to feed people day to day.

If bolsonaro came to Britain and asked for ten thousand tons of cabbage or hops to save Brazil's Xmas he'd be laughed at and rightly so. People would chortle about how that wasn't in the PM's gift. And it's not really in bolsonaro's gift to sort out untold turkeys for Johnson.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I have C1 and C1E (but not C or CE) on my licence. Does that mean I can drive up to 7.5 tonne?

I regularly drive a 3.5 tonne at work, but wouldn't want to go any bigger than that, certainly not without additional training.

I haven't had a letter either though, so I suppose it's all hypothetical anyway.

Yes,

Like you I can cope with 3.5 tonne, but 7,5 tonne was bloody scary, especially in Bristol city centre.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Yes. And ambulances.

Everyone who got their licences before 1997 will have it.

I haven't either so they must have filtered them in some way. In cupid_stunt's case they probably excluded everyone born in the eighteen hundreds.

Rearrange these words 'off' and 'fuck'.

 

[Badgers]

A brexiteer helping the country recently

 

[krtek a houby]

"Catholics were expected to abstain from eating meat or products derived from animals such as butter or dairy on Fridays and holy days. Christmas Eve being one of the designated days on which to abstain, most good Catholics would eat fish, typically cooked in oil."

...what do Irish Catholics eat at xmas?

The body of Christ with Brussel sprouts

 

[Ax^]

"Catholics were expected to abstain from eating meat or products derived from animals such as butter or dairy on Fridays and holy days. Christmas Eve being one of the designated days on which to abstain, most good Catholics would eat fish, typically cooked in oil."

...what do Irish Catholics eat at xmas?

Puffins

with Cabbage

 

[krtek a houby]

Puffins

with Cabbage

Protected in Ireland, afaik. Iceland, mebbe.

 

[Ax^]

Protected in Ireland, afaik. Iceland, mebbe.

aye but were labelled as fish by the catholic church back in the day so you could eat them on fridays

 

[teqniq]

According to a reply, apparently published in The Times:

 

[bluescreen]

was Jesus a vegetarian?

If he wasn't a pescatarian at least he expected other people to be.

 

[krtek a houby]

aye but were labelled as fish by the catholic church back in the day so you could eat them on fridays

They do taste fishy, oddly enough

 

[Puddy_Tat]

I have C1 and C1E (but not C or CE) on my licence. Does that mean I can drive up to 7.5 tonne?

I regularly drive a 3.5 tonne at work, but wouldn't want to go any bigger than that, certainly not without additional training.

I haven't had a letter either though, so I suppose it's all hypothetical anyway.

if you have C1 (presume you passed your car test before 1997) then yes - although as someone else has mentioned, you would probably need to do the driver CPC (5 days of theory training) before you did it commercially.

Although the CPC was an EU idea - UK government could probably in theory suspend or abolish the requirement, although that might cause issues with UK commercial drivers' licences not being considered acceptable in EU countries.

And you would probably need to get a tachograph card as well

(It's a very long time since I've been involved in freight transport)

Everyone who got their licences before 1997 will have it.

I haven't had my letter yet. Maybe they are prioritising Germans and paramedics...

 

[philosophical]

Are you a Christian?

I have no idea.
How is Christian defined?

 

[ska invita]

I have no idea.
How is Christian defined?

very philosophical