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A thank you to Brexiteers.

The UK has placed restrictions on temporary visas. Five thousand temp lorry drivers restriction won't entail becoming reliant on these workers.
We’ll see what happens longer term. I think that ft article was right, there’ll be plenty of migrant workers still just even more exploited ones not less.
Maybe not lorry drivers tho I reckon that will probably be ok in time.
 
“We cannot point to one historical example in which a temporary labour shortage has been remedied with a temporary labour migration programme, and then employers returned to hiring local workers.” A favourite aphorism of migration experts is that there is nothing so permanent as a temporary migration programme.”
bimble
You said it was spot on. I would agree with the quoted bits above but do you? Really?
 
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...thats certainly more true now post-Brexit than before: when a "migrant worker" came to the UK they could quickly become defacto UK citizens, with the UK state responsible for them, access to the welfare state, voting rights etc. Not any more - now temp-visa workers truly "have a single function - to work". The creation of a new migrant underclass definitely something to watch and fight against, post-Brexit.

In fact people calling all EU citizens living in the UK pre-Brexit "migrant workers" was pigeonholing people who were simply exercising their right to free movement. Some people work, some don't. Some people moved strictly for work reasons, others for a range of other reasons, some wanted to settle, others to return home etc. Someone who wants to settle is not a migrant worker - theyre an expat.

ETA: just saw bimble say the same thing above - agree
 
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...thats certainly more true now post-Brexit than before: when a "migrant worker" came to the UK they could quickly become defacto UK citizens, with the UK state responsible for them, access to the welfare state, voting rights etc. Not any more - now temp-visa workers truly "have a single function - to work". The creation of a new migrant underclass definitely something to watch and fight against, post-Brexit.

In fact people calling all EU citizens living the UK pre-Brexit "migrant workers" was pigeonholing people who were simply exercising their right to free movement. Some people work, some don't. Some people moved strictly for work reasons, others for a range of other reasons, some wanted to settle, others to return home etc. Someone who wants to settle is not a migrant worker - theyre an expat.

ETA: just saw bimble say the same thing above - agree

Spot on
 
...in fact shirking state responsibility whilst being able to now grant temp work visas surely a motivating factor for the Tories and Kippers etc
 
perhaps these temporary work visas for truck drivers and farm workers will prove to be the thin end of the wedge.In the normal course the Tories could then expect there to be a reckoning in two years time.Its particularly unfortunate therefore that the Labour Party seems likely ,on current showing at least, to have given up the ghost by then.
 
A great prediction and an even better acronym.

 
A great prediction and an even better acronym.


have they re-branded as Out of Fuel UK?
 
bimble
You said it was spot on. I would agree with the quoted bits above but do you? Really?
i don't know, i'm not any kind of expert. Seems likely that they )migration experts whoever they are) know what they're talking about, and seems logical too. I definitely think it's true for agriculture.
 
have they re-branded as Out of Fuel UK?
I have a feeling this organisation is one of those one-man reactionary outfits that gets a sympathetic ear in the right wing press, a bit like that ‘Association of British Drivers’ bloke, or the slightly larger but corporately manufactured ‘Taxpayer’s Alliance’.
 
This is a very good description analysis of how lorry drivers have been and are still being fleeced across Europe and the U.K. Which those who are pro working class left , whether they voted for or against or abstained re Brexit , shouldn’t have any problem with .

 
This is a very good description analysis of how lorry drivers have been and are still being fleeced across Europe and the U.K. Which those who are pro working class left , whether they voted for or against or abstained re Brexit , shouldn’t have any problem with .


That’s the crux of it.
 
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