A thank you to Brexiteers.

[TopCat]

Donaldson threatens to trigger elections over the NI protocol and closer ties to the Republic. Elections they could well lose giving Sinn Fein control. Maybe a bluff but he has no where else to go in satisfying his constituency.

DUP may walk out of Stormont power-sharing over Brexit protocol

Jeffrey Donaldson says DUP is ‘totally opposed to Northern Ireland protocol as it presently exists’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Flavour]

Lidl pay their lorry drivers better than most and have done so for some time. Full shelves.

Not true in Italy, in fact their scabs killed a picketer as recently as June this year:

Union leader killed in Italy when truck forces picket line

ROME (AP) — A labor union leader was killed in northern Italy when a truck apparently broke through a picket line outside a supermarket warehouse facility Friday and struck him.

apnews.com

edited to add: Lidl's low prices are partly made possible by the incredible economies of scale achieved through having a Europe-wide network of supermarkets operated very centrally indeed: as evidenced by the number of products that are Made in Germany. So this is relevant to UK workers too. I doubt they get better treatment from Lidl by virtue of being in the UK

 

[bimble]

Oh no. One provider is introducing roaming charges, giving customers a reason to switch to a rival who hasn't done that. It's hardly the apocalypse, is it?

One provider left now which is Not doing roaming charges.

‘just go to a different shop’

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

One provider left now which is Not doing roaming charges.

‘just go to a different shop’

One? TalkTalk, Sky and O2...and many other smaller ones...

 

[bimble]

One? TalkTalk, Sky and O2...and many other smaller ones...

I dunno I have no idea how many companies there are but this says there’s now only one ‘major ‘ one left. Anyway it was more the recurring idea that just shop somewhere else is any kind of a solution to structural changes.

Three becomes latest mobile firm to bring back roaming charges

End to almost five years of free roaming across Europe will come into effect from 23 May 2022

www.theguardian.com

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I dunno I have no idea how many companies there are but this says there’s now only one ‘major ‘ one left. Anyway it was more the recurring idea that just shop somewhere else is any kind of a solution to structural changes.

Three becomes latest mobile firm to bring back roaming charges

End to almost five years of free roaming across Europe will come into effect from 23 May 2022

www.theguardian.com

Sky of course a minor operation in telecommunications and the Guardian as ever is on the money

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Not really sure what the fuss is though, £2 a day to roam, £28 to use your phone all day, every day on a 2 week holiday...

 

[Raheem]

I think it depends what you call roaming charges. EE still don't have roaming charges, but have introduced a cap on data usage abroad (which apparently would also be fine according to EU rules).

 

[bimble]

Sky of course a minor operation in telecommunications and the Guardian as ever is on the money

It is not a separate thing from 02 I think but feck knows how all that works.

 

[Raheem]

Not really sure what the fuss is though, £2 a day to roam, £28 to use your phone all day, every day on a 2 week holiday...

Just £140 for a family of five.

 

[Pickman's model]

Not really sure what the fuss is though, £2 a day to roam, £28 to use your phone all day, every day on a 2 week holiday...

if you're stopping in a hotel then it wouldn't be too bad as you can just turn on the wifi and call via whatsapp etc. of course if you're off in the back of beyond things may be rather different.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

It is not a separate thing from 02 I think but feck knows how all that works.

Sky uses O2's network, separate companies though, not every operator can have a network, there'd be millions of masts of that were the case. It works in the same way that you can choose your energy supplier, but you don't get new cables and pipes.

 

[bimble]

It’s not a big deal at all the mobile roaming thing, it’s just an inconvenience, the loss of a nice little perk.
Just think it’s an example of how ‘just go to a different shop’ is a crap answer to these changes that brexit brings.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Just £140 for a family of five.

If a family of five goes on holiday and all of them spends each day on their fucking phones I have zero fucks to give how much they pay for that kind of behaviour.

 

[Pickman's model]

If a family of five goes on holiday and all of them spends each day on their fucking phones I have zero fucks to give how much they pay for that kind of behaviour.

if a family of five goes on holiday together, don't interact at all, and are glued to their phones the entire time then why the fuck are going somewhere they won't even notice

 

[two sheds]

To catch up with their mates on the phone, obv

 

[bimble]

Sky uses O2's network, separate companies though, not every operator can have a network, there'd be millions of masts of that were the case. It works in the same way that you can choose your energy supplier, but you don't get new cables and pipes.

So could Sky be no roaming changes whilst O2 imposed them? Only a tiny bit interested either way tbh.

 

[Badgers]

Have a holiday from your mobile

I used to just pick up a local SIM when I was abroad. Hardly a faff

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

So could Sky be no roaming changes whilst O2 imposed them? Only a tiny bit interested either way tbh.

Could be, it's up to each operator to charge what they want. O2 btw isn't charging roaming, they have recently reminded their punters about their fair use policy, a policy they've had in place for years.

 

[bimble]

Could be, it's up to each operator to charge what they want. O2 btw isn't charging roaming, they have recently reminded their punters about their fair use policy, a policy they've had in place for years.

Yes I know they’re the one cited as the remaining provider who isn’t.

 

[Smangus]

Not true in Italy, in fact their scabs killed a picketer as recently as June this year:

Union leader killed in Italy when truck forces picket line

ROME (AP) — A labor union leader was killed in northern Italy when a truck apparently broke through a picket line outside a supermarket warehouse facility Friday and struck him.

apnews.com

edited to add: Lidl's low prices are partly made possible by the incredible economies of scale achieved through having a Europe-wide network of supermarkets operated very centrally indeed: as evidenced by the number of products that are Made in Germany. So this is relevant to UK workers too. I doubt they get better treatment from Lidl by virtue of being in the UK

Also they are still a privately owned company iirc, no shareholders to please which allowed them to undercut the other supermarkets in the first place. The money goes back into the business. Not saying they shouldn't pay staff more etc, but their lack of shareholder obligations gives them a competitive edge in that sector.

 

[Chz]

One? TalkTalk, Sky and O2...and many other smaller ones...

All of which are on the O2 network (as well as perennial favourite around here, GiffGaff).
If O2 introduce charges, you can bet the lot of them will.

 

[Chz]

Sky of course a minor operation in telecommunications and the Guardian as ever is on the money

Sky don't have their own network, so yes they're a minor player. Hell, Sky Mobile is less than 5 years old.

 

[bimble]

UK has been in Germany's top ten trading partners for the last 70 years this says but isn't any more.
Lidl will be fine its our exports that aren't.

EXCLUSIVE Britain no longer in top 10 for trade with Germany as Brexit bites

Britain is on course to lose its status as one of Germany's top 10 trading partners this year for the first time since 1950, as Brexit-related trade barriers drive firms in Europe's largest economy to look for business elsewhere.

mobile.reuters.com

 

[The39thStep]

Have a holiday from your mobile

I used to just pick up a local SIM when I was abroad. Hardly a faff

I’m in the countryside and out of about 15 cafe bars I know only one doesn’t have WiFi. People who don’t have internet at home just go the cafes .
Ive still got a virgin contract ( as well as a Meo one) and that just has a fair use policy.

 

[Supine]

More costs

PayPal raises fees between UK and Europe

PayPal is bringing in a new fee for commercial transactions between the UK and EEA.

www.bbc.com

 

[gosub]

if a family of five goes on holiday together, don't interact at all, and are glued to their phones the entire time then why the fuck are going somewhere they won't even notice

|If it isnt on instagram it didn't happen type people. Phone wankers

 

[Pickman's model]

|If it isnt on instagram it didn't happen type people. Phone wankers

They are the real zombies

 

[Badgers]

Brexit pre-settled status: EU nationals in UK face losing out on jobs and housing

Some people cannot prove they are in the country legally because of glitch in digital residency permits

Brexit pre-settled status: EU nationals in UK face losing out on jobs and housing | Brexit | The Guardian

amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[krtek a houby]

if a family of five goes on holiday together, don't interact at all, and are glued to their phones the entire time then why the fuck are going somewhere they won't even notice

Fuck, yeah