4th July Golders Green counter-demonstration against anti-semites

[treelover]

The real threat to British Jews comes from fundamentalists, not fascists. So showing up in our thousands to watch Hitler fans stomp around in their shiny boots and blinkers would have been like using a javelin to lance a boil.

he may be right there, also in Malmo in Sweden, most Jews have left.

 

[Pickman's model]

he may be right there, also in Malmo in Sweden, most Jews have left.

cos of the fundies?

 

[Fingers]

meanwhile there has been a report here of a pensioner with no care left in her own excretions.

I am somewhat struggling to work out what this has to do with facing down fascists on the streets.

perhaps you could explain the connection, however tenuous.

 

[malatesta32]

wrong thread ...

 

[treelover]

I am saying priorities, my priority is those that cannot help themselves, not the big 'sexy' issues that most liberal types seem to descend on.


The UAF exist for themselves and to promote themselves,

imo, the way to weaken what is left of the far right is the IWCA approach.

 

[Fingers]

I am saying priorities, my priority is those that cannot help themselves, not the big 'sexy' issues that most liberal types seem to descend on.


The UAF exist for themselves and to promote themselves,

imo, the way to weaken what is left of the far right is the IWCA approach.

Then good for you. Maybe you are on the wrong thread in that case. You carry on your patronising posts and faux concerns for (pick a 'trendy' subject at will) and we will carry on opposing the far right.

 

[Fingers]

I am saying priorities, my priority is those that cannot help themselves, not the big 'sexy' issues that most liberal types seem to descend on.


The UAF exist for themselves and to promote themselves,

imo, the way to weaken what is left of the far right is the IWCA approach.

I doubt many people on here who are opposing it have anything to do with the UAF.

Are you under the illusion that those on here who are going along to oppose these clowns do not also campaign for better treatment for those who are being treated shabbily by our current Tory regime?

Because if that is the case you are clearly deluded.

 

[ddraig]

I am saying priorities, my priority is those that cannot help themselves, not the big 'sexy' issues that most liberal types seem to descend on.


The UAF exist for themselves and to promote themselves,

imo, the way to weaken what is left of the far right is the IWCA approach.

do you care about only 1 thing?

 

[Pickman's model]

do you care about only 1 thing?

he doesn't. he doesn't care about anything. he just witters on about one or two things.

 

[treelover]

I doubt many people on here who are opposing it have anything to do with the UAF.

Are you under the illusion that those on here who are going along to oppose these clowns do not also campaign for better treatment for those who are being treated shabbily by our current Tory regime?

Because if that is the case you are clearly deluded.

I am talking about the many hundreds of anti's who attend these things, then next week 10 people turn up against a workfare project.

legitimate concerns about these camp followers, imo.

 

[Pickman's model]

I am talking about the many hundreds of anti's who attend these things, then next week 10 people turn up against a workfare project.

legitimate concerns about these camp followers, imo.

some people work, you know. my time is no longer my own. and i think it impertinent of you to demand everyone follow your chosen campaigns.

 

[Fingers]

I am talking about the many hundreds of anti's who attend these things, then next week 10 people turn up against a workfare project.

legitimate concerns about these camp followers, imo.

So can you give us a quota on how many should turn up for each particular concern? can you list all the current concerns on a spreadsheet and post it online. Should keep you busy for a few weeks.

I have just searched for a thread started by you regarding these anti workfare meetings you have organised and unsurprisingly, I cannot find one.

 

[ddraig]

I am talking about the many hundreds of anti's who attend these things, then next week 10 people turn up against a workfare project.

legitimate concerns about these camp followers, imo.

i do both, do i get a gold star from you?

e2a - not with the shitehawk UAF, they can fuck right off

 

[ddraig]

I am talking about the many hundreds of anti's who attend these things, then next week 10 people turn up against a workfare project.

legitimate concerns about these camp followers, imo.

do you go to anti fa things?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I am talking about the many hundreds of anti's who attend these things, then next week 10 people turn up against a workfare project.

legitimate concerns about these camp followers, imo.

Can we put things in a bit more perspective?

About 50 anti-fascists turned out on the last antifa I went to (Clapton/Stamford Hill - the one that preceded the one this thread is about).

Since then I have been on a march with 250,000 other people against austerity.

I also went to a meeting about recruiting more people into my union at work, at which there were 3 of us.

How do these numbers compare to actual protests you have been to over say, the last month or two treelover ?

 

[Pickman's model]

do you go to anti fa things?

i await his response with interest

 

[Fingers]

By the way treelover

many who will be opposing the neo nazis also went here a couple of weeks ago.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/jun/20/anti-austerity-demonstrations-live

Were you there or are you an armchair activist?

 

[Pickman's model]

By the way treelover

many who will be opposing the neo nazis also went here a couple of weeks ago.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/jun/20/anti-austerity-demonstrations-live

Were you there or are you an armchair activist?

the second word should i suggest begin with w.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

By the way treelover

many who will be opposing the neo nazis also went here a couple of weeks ago.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/jun/20/anti-austerity-demonstrations-live

Were you there or are you an armchair activist?

AFAIK treelover doesn't live in London, but I am sure he will be along in a minute to let us know about the number of attendees at specific things he has been to locally, like the workfare one with the 10 people.

 

[Pickman's model]

AFAIK treelover doesn't live in London, but I am sure he will be along in a minute to let us know about the number of attendees at specific things he has been to locally, like the workfare one with the 10 people.

perhaps he'll show us the register.

 

[malatesta32]

I am talking about the many hundreds of anti's who attend these things, then next week 10 people turn up against a workfare project.

legitimate concerns about these camp followers, imo.

well to be honest the anti-austerity demos were big and a lot of recent antifash does have been small. this weekend against nobjob nazis, edl and infidels may illustrate this.

 

[Pickman's model]

red leader to treelover come in treelover

 

[malatesta32]

red leader red leader ... he didn't make it!

 

[Pickman's model]

red leader red leader ... he didn't make it!

never mind, eh. it's turned out nice again

 

[Pickman's model]

red leader red leader ... he didn't make it!

 

[ddraig]

he'll hide and think it's gone away then come back with the same old shite til next time

 

[Pickman's model]

he'll hide and think it's gone away then come back with the same old shite til next time

 

[Fingers]

he'll hide and think it's gone away then come back with the same old shite til next time

This

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I expect treelover has had something else to attend to and will return to this conversation soon.

 

[tufty79]

Edit: deleted on request. Fingers - please could you remove your quote/any reference to it?