But is he though?
I've I could be bothered I'd be stuck between thinking he's a lovely chap, if a bit dim and being a sleazy duplicitous con man who'll be after getting in your missus knickers.
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But is he though?
I've I could be bothered I'd be stuck between thinking he's a lovely chap, if a bit dim and being a sleazy duplicitous con man who'll be after getting in your missus knickers.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
well, i think his accent is genuine, but maybe nothing else
How so?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
he ran away from a conversation where some dumbass said the word nigger and then beat his chest about it afterward and said he'd never heard the word uttered in a normal conversation before.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
he's certainly a liar and insincere if he thinks we're to believe that he's never heard nigger outside of hip hop
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
and why did he not know how to react? there's only one way to react
N_igma
Epistemic nuisance
He seemed really naive and a bit stupid:
"The klu klux klan are still about" etc. I mean really, catch a grip of yourself Jamie and you've never heard the word "nigger" being used outside of Snoop Doggy Dogg Dogg albulms? Yessssssssss Jamie we believe you.
Still likeable though.
"The klu klux klan are still about" etc. I mean really, catch a grip of yourself Jamie and you've never heard the word "nigger" being used outside of Snoop Doggy Dogg Dogg albulms? Yessssssssss Jamie we believe you.
Still likeable though.
Clearly not.
ringo
Macaroni cheese controller
This.
I'm a Jamie Oliver convert since about 2 years ago, although an old school mate is married to his producer and he's been telling me he's a nice, genuine bloke from the beginning.
My Mrs has one of his books too and so far anything I've cooked out of it has been pretty good.
Most of my problem with him was about my prejudices and first impressions, same with Delia. Another 2 years and I'll be buying Ainlsley Harriott cookbooks and raving about Antony Worrall Thompson
Onket
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I thought it was pathetic. Especially after he'd set the whole thing up by asking them if it was 'party time when Obama got in' or whatever it was he said. The fella didn't even say it with any venom, it was in passing. If that was the best shot of someone using the word that they got all night then perhaps they just had to go with it.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
so what is jamies backround exactly? did he come from a middle class family - is his accent fake? isn't his wife posh or something?
he comes across as genuine but sometimes i think he tries too hard to be PC...
he's from rural essex and his parents run a pub - i don't know what class that makes him.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
well there's only one way you SHOULD react and that's to challenge what you don't agree with
g force
Affects Shatner's Basoon
so what is jamies backround exactly? did he come from a middle class family - is his accent fake? isn't his wife posh or something?
he comes across as genuine but sometimes i think he tries too hard to be PC...
How does hsi wife's background possibly come into this or matter? He's from Essex, parents ran a pub so I guess that's kinda middle class.
FWIW I hated him when he first came on TV, but from the School Dinners programme, the seasonal cooking programme and what he did at 15 employing kids to train them up he seems decent. More so than any other TV Chef.
Last night's episode was decent although the nigger bit was just
There is only one way to react and he bottled it.
sleaterkinney
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Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
I have also never heard the word nigger being used in a serious, non-ironic, manner. I don't know what I would have done if I had been in his situation when it was said. Probably, like him, ignore it, because I wouldn't be sure of the cultural norms in that situation, and it is not up to me to impose my views in such a situation.
What I don't really understand is why they left it in. What did it add to the show? It was so softly said that hey had to subtitle it, and then they had to show Jamie going on about it, on his own, and then show how he is not racist, because he insisted on taking a couple of black people along to what was seemingly a white dominated festival. That was what annoyed me about it.
What I don't really understand is why they left it in. What did it add to the show? It was so softly said that hey had to subtitle it, and then they had to show Jamie going on about it, on his own, and then show how he is not racist, because he insisted on taking a couple of black people along to what was seemingly a white dominated festival. That was what annoyed me about it.
Onket
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Yep.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I've never heard nigger used in real life.
WHAT? where did you grow up?
i've heard it loads
Yes, I'm sure the celebrity chef would have successfully challenged the drunken redneck's deeply ingrained racist beliefs and maybe even persuaded him to vote for Obama next election.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
so best keep stum and pretend to agree?
Nobody's asking him to forcibly indoctrinate the stupid redneck, but if someone says something like that near you it's best to challenge them, not look like a stunned mullet looking for mummy. Especially when you're the presenter on a fairly major channel.
Oliver was always likely to be a bit wet, but he came across badly there.
Oliver was always likely to be a bit wet, but he came across badly there.
Onket
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When did he do that?!
extra dry
Happy to be here
What is his remit as it where...what could he have done on camera, in the moment? challenge it or just ignore it...personally the producers should have just left it out...
we all know the deep south has its issues and 'redneck' views pop up all the time, just don't give them a voice on the channel...
more a production person/director trying to prove a point, get people talking about the show, than Oliver being all 'right on anti racist'.
we all know the deep south has its issues and 'redneck' views pop up all the time, just don't give them a voice on the channel...
more a production person/director trying to prove a point, get people talking about the show, than Oliver being all 'right on anti racist'.
I don't agree with that for a second - he's out to portray a true picture of the South, not the sanitised telly-friendly view.
I still think's he a wet lettuce for not saying anything though. Who lets that kind of shit go unchallenged in real life? if you can't confront a load of toothless alkies about the things they've said into your tv camera then when can you say anything?
Nutless
I still think's he a wet lettuce for not saying anything though. Who lets that kind of shit go unchallenged in real life? if you can't confront a load of toothless alkies about the things they've said into your tv camera then when can you say anything?
Nutless
so best keep stum and pretend to agree?
I'm not sure he did that.
It was clumsily handled, like the show in general which is neither one thing or the other. He should stick to food and let Louis Theroux concentrate on talking to weirdos.
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