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If I ever win the Lottery, or indeed ever play it, I'm going to fund a study into why tummy-tickling is such a divisive subject. I get mauled by my own little bundle of fluff, even though she leads me on; on the other hand earlier on today, whilst getting the bins in from outside, one of next door's was only too happy to roll over and let me tickle her big fat gut.

It's basically feline Marmite, but with more violence.
 
If I ever win the Lottery, or indeed ever play it, I'm going to fund a study into why tummy-tickling is such a divisive subject. I get mauled by my own little bundle of fluff, even though she leads me on; on the other hand earlier on today, whilst getting the bins in from outside, one of next door's was only too happy to roll over and let me tickle her big fat gut.

It's basically feline Marmite, but with more violence.

Jakey rolls over and actively solicits tummy rubs, he absolutely loves them. I say Rolley-Boy to him and he purrs and over he goes onto his back. Sonic is neither here nor there, he doesn't roll onto his back but doesn't mind if I rub his tummy when I am cuddling him. Radar didn't mind but did seem to actively enjoy randomly savaging people for other reasons (bless his little heart!) Had a neighbour many years ago with a very sweet and friendly grey and white cat called Rizla who used to greet me when I got home from work by running up and rolling over for tummy rubs. Some cats you are going to need skin grafts if you try it.
 
Any advice on how to make friends with them?

I find sitting there and pretending you're not interested makes cats pay more attention to you for some reason.

yes. possibly stating the obvious to many on this thread, but that's pretty much true

from what i've read / observed in an amateur capacity -

cats and dogs speak a completely different body language.

looking straight at a cat, making a fuss, trying too hard to attract their attention are all very off-putting to cats.

this is why cats often ignore the person who is trying to make friends with cat, and go and sit on the lap of the person who doesn't like / is allergic to cats who is hoping that cat won't notice them. (it's not that cats are deliberately trying to annoy that person)

some cats are more nervous of men than women - nobody's quite sure why - may simply be men being larger / having heavier footsteps, may be past encounters with a dickhead, traditionally vets were more likely to be men (and may set off bad memories) although not sure that's the case any more.

a cat is more likely to approach someone who's sitting down. for a particularly nervous cat, sitting / lying on the floor near them (but not so close you're a threat) means they are more likely to approach (there's no guarantees)

sitting on the floor reading a newspaper offers them a chance to come and sit on the newspaper...
 
yes. possibly stating the obvious to many on this thread, but that's pretty much true

from what i've read / observed in an amateur capacity -

cats and dogs speak a completely different body language.

looking straight at a cat, making a fuss, trying too hard to attract their attention are all very off-putting to cats.

this is why cats often ignore the person who is trying to make friends with cat, and go and sit on the lap of the person who doesn't like / is allergic to cats who is hoping that cat won't notice them. (it's not that cats are deliberately trying to annoy that person)

some cats are more nervous of men than women - nobody's quite sure why - may simply be men being larger / having heavier footsteps, may be past encounters with a dickhead, traditionally vets were more likely to be men (and may set off bad memories) although not sure that's the case any more.

a cat is more likely to approach someone who's sitting down. for a particularly nervous cat, sitting / lying on the floor near them (but not so close you're a threat) means they are more likely to approach (there's no guarantees)

sitting on the floor reading a newspaper offers them a chance to come and sit on the newspaper...

Jakey had a lovely early upbringing in the same home as Sonic and is unaccountably very nervous of men who are standing up. Sitting is fine, he'll go over and sit on anyone's lap. But he has hissed at OH (who he sees every day!) and my dad and our male friends when they are standing up. I do wonder if he accidentally had a paw or tail stepped on at some time. As soon as they sit down he wants cuddles. Standing up will hiss and growl and run away.
 
Jakey had a lovely early upbringing in the same home as Sonic

yes - it's not always obvious.

the two mogs i used to live with were (to the best of my knowledge) from the same litter, but very different in character. one would be at the 'o hai, i can has tummy rubs plz, purr purr purr' stage within moments of meeting a stranger, the other tended to view the world as an elaborate black and white cat trap and most humans as complicit in that (although he was the one who tended to bugger off somewhere for long weekends away fairly often)

having said that, humans from the same family - if not from the same litter - can be considerably different in personality.
 
So Sonic went back to the vet so they could take blood (postponed from Saturday as they didn't have sufficient staff to deal with a strong wriggly one!) - all went smoothly, they got the samples they needed and he wasn't too stressed, one of the nurses simply cuddled him with her hand gently over his face, he's a very sweet cat and tends to appreciate cuddles even from strangers and he knows the nurse a little bit so it was all good.

Results should be available Friday, vet will phone me when they get them from the hospital.
 
So Sonic went back to the vet so they could take blood (postponed from Saturday as they didn't have sufficient staff to deal with a strong wriggly one!) - all went smoothly, they got the samples they needed and he wasn't too stressed, one of the nurses simply cuddled him with her hand gently over his face, he's a very sweet cat and tends to appreciate cuddles even from strangers and he knows the nurse a little bit so it was all good.

Results should be available Friday, vet will phone me when they get them from the hospital.

Liked in support, hope it's all good news

Spent another £100 quid on the Ginger one yesterday, ongoing gum issues poor sod. Worth it for how much happier is already though :)
 
"they are getting a BOX. want."



awww

have you established if he has a home or what?

He belongs to a family a few doors from me. Thought he was a feral cat when I first spotted him August 2020 going through one of those metal bins. Then by chance was speaking to a woman walking her dog who told me he belongs to her. Here is our first encounter. He ran as I approached.

 
He belongs to a family a few doors from me. Thought he was a feral cat when I first spotted him August 2020 going through one of those metal bins. Then by chance was speaking to a woman walking her dog who told me he belongs to her. Here is our first encounter. He ran as I approached.


The way to a cat's heart is always through their stomach!
 
I am beyond frustrated about the call I just had from the vet to discuss the results of Sonic's blood tests which came back more or less normal.

This vet hasn't actually seen Sonic, was just the one on duty today (regular vet is away or something so other vets from the vet group are filling in) and thought the issue being investigated was his congestion, said she wanted to refer him for a CT scan, rhinoscopy, and nose and throat cultures.

He's had nasal congestion for must be going on 3 years now and ALL THESE TESTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE - inconclusive, congestion was deemed therefore to be allergy related as everything else was ruled out and allergy tests on cats aren't very accurate, so we stopped prodding and poking him. It hasn't got any worse, it hasn't got any better, it's a bit messy but it doesn't seem to be causing him any distress, and I don't want the same lot of tests repeated!

I didn't take him to the vet about the congestion, which is a long standing condition and should be in his fucking notes, but she admitted she hadn't read his notes. I told her we brought him in NOT about that, but about weight loss over the last 2 or 3 months despite him eating normally, which is somewhat more fucking urgent and potentially life threatening than a bit of snot.

She seemed surprised by this and had another look at the test results - nothing in there to indicate a cause for weight loss, next step would be an ultrasound, would I like a referral for that instead of the CT scan/rhinoscopy etc.

YES FUCKING PLEASE! (Please note I did not say this to the vet, I was cross but polite during the conversation).

So I just had a call from the hospital saying he'd been referred for an abdominal ultrasound and we booked him in for Monday morning so they are treating it as urgent - bingo looks like we are on the right track. I do have to pick up a prescription from our local vet for "something for the congestion" but I won't start that until after Monday now. If they give him something that reduces the snot then I'm certainly willing to try it.

Now I am anxious that I am going to go in Monday and they won't know why he's booked in for an ultrasound when he clearly has a congestion issue
 
I am beyond frustrated about the call I just had from the vet to discuss the results of Sonic's blood tests which came back more or less normal.

This vet hasn't actually seen Sonic, was just the one on duty today (regular vet is away or something so other vets from the vet group are filling in) and thought the issue being investigated was his congestion, said she wanted to refer him for a CT scan, rhinoscopy, and nose and throat cultures.

He's had nasal congestion for must be going on 3 years now and ALL THESE TESTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE - inconclusive, congestion was deemed therefore to be allergy related as everything else was ruled out and allergy tests on cats aren't very accurate, so we stopped prodding and poking him. It hasn't got any worse, it hasn't got any better, it's a bit messy but it doesn't seem to be causing him any distress, and I don't want the same lot of tests repeated!

I didn't take him to the vet about the congestion, which is a long standing condition and should be in his fucking notes, but she admitted she hadn't read his notes. I told her we brought him in NOT about that, but about weight loss over the last 2 or 3 months despite him eating normally, which is somewhat more fucking urgent and potentially life threatening than a bit of snot.

She seemed surprised by this and had another look at the test results - nothing in there to indicate a cause for weight loss, next step would be an ultrasound, would I like a referral for that instead of the CT scan/rhinoscopy etc.

YES FUCKING PLEASE! (Please note I did not say this to the vet, I was cross but polite during the conversation).

So I just had a call from the hospital saying he'd been referred for an abdominal ultrasound and we booked him in for Monday morning so they are treating it as urgent - bingo looks like we are on the right track. I do have to pick up a prescription from our local vet for "something for the congestion" but I won't start that until after Monday now. If they give him something that reduces the snot then I'm certainly willing to try it.

Now I am anxious that I am going to go in Monday and they won't know why he's booked in for an ultrasound when he clearly has a congestion issue

Okay, so let's focus on the positive: in for an ultrasound. You can deal with any confusion on the day. Yes you can.

Here's hoping insurance covers it.
 
Pet insurance should cover that, right?

Yes, most of it. Because of his age, the excess is the first £120 + 20% of the remaining overall cost - so as long as my claim goes through ok, they will pay most of it.

(Also I doubt if it is going to be anything like as expensive as an MRI scan. I think an ultrasound will mean that between all our cats we will have used every machine in the imaging department at the hospital at this point)
 
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