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I finally decorated the tree tonight as they seemed to have got used to it.

Sgarba was curious but was content to peer whilst on her hind legs. However, all the sparkley stuff drove this one into a complete frenzy, she's sent a wine bottle flying, had the tree over once and deftly chomped her way through the wiring of TWO sets of fairy lights! Battery thankfully.

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Keeping a low profile for now. She knows I'm pissed off! :mad:
 
Sleep well Jakey.
Keep well Epona
Angel was brilliant btw, I wish my others had him at their bedside when they went - he really is a great vet and a lovely person.
Even when it went a bit tits up*, he let us stay the whole time, which hadn't happened with the previous 2 - they'd been taken out of the room to be given sedative and have an IV line put in, I prefer his way of doing it because we were there for the whole thing and never left Jakey's side.

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Nothing terrible, or at least nothing I found distressing - the sedative was given and he was in deep sleep completely out of it and unaware, but the first attempt was injected into his kidney but it turned out his circulation to his kidneys was so compromised that the anaesthetic was just sitting there instead of going into his bloodstream, so another injection had to be given into the vein on his front leg. This was all fine, there was no distress involved to either us or Jakey who was zonked out. I preferred this over the cat being removed to another room and us being reunited when sedated and a cannula put in place like happened with other cats with different vets attending them - it meant we were with him through the entire process and could see the care and love that he was treated with.
 
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Angel was brilliant btw, I wish my others had him at their bedside when they went - he really is a great vet and a lovely person.
Even when it went a bit tits up*, he let us stay the whole time, which hadn't happened with the previous 2 - they'd been taken out of the room to be given sedative and have an IV line put in, I prefer his way of doing it because we were there for the whole thing and never left Jakey's side.

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Nothing terrible, or at least nothing I found distressing - the sedative was given and he was in deep sleep completely out of it and unaware, but the first attempt was injected into his kidney but it turned out his circulation to his kidneys was so compromised that the anaesthetic was just sitting there instead of going into his bloodstream, so another injection had to be given into the vein on his front leg. This was all fine, there was no distress involved to either us or Jakey who was zonked out. I preferred this over the cat being removed to another room and us being reunited when sedated and a cannula put in place like happened with other cats with different vets attending them - it meant we were with him through the entire process and could see the care and love that he was treated with.
I always stay with mine throughout the whole procedure. When Darcey was put to sleep I was still with my previous vet but they were lovely about it. They have a special room at the back of the surgery for euthanasias with a sofa in it. After she'd had the sedative, I sat on the sofa and nursed her in my arms while she fell asleep and the vet left the room for 10 minutes so we could say our goodbyes.

The vet I go to now is happy to do home visits when an animal has to be put to sleep and a lovely Portuguese vet called Ana came to the house when it was Minty's time to go.
 
Epona it has all been said.
Not only can you reflect on a wonderful shared experience with Jakey, and Sonic and all your previous cats, but you share help and knowledge with total generosity in this little cat loving community.
I hope you don’t find it unfeeling for me to suggest you strongly consider the six month old little cat you mentioned, because your expertise and capacity to love and share ought not to stop.
To shed tears for Jakey is to honour him.
 
Thank you - I do already in a way - caring for him for the last few months was something I did gladly, as you would do to improve the quality of life of anyone you loved while they were nearing the end of their life - but it was a round of alarms set for medications and fluids, constant trips to the vet, getting more and more fussy about food and trying to find things out of the limited selection of renal foods that he would tuck into, getting thinner and thinner, frequently on antibiotics for UTIs, piss and shit and in the last few days, blood all over the place.

I am at least content that he was very happy and treating him for everything was worth it up until a couple of days ago, and that we did the absolute right thing today. I wish he could have had longer, but at nearly 18 he'd had a good innings and a very good life full of love and comfort, and we knew it was coming so there is no tragedy or shock involved at losing him - just sadness and missing him.

He was the gentlest sweetest thing, a very special creature, who showed his love to us generously and received our love with purrs and headbutts and Siam/OSH "WAAAAAH"s. :)
Our cat Mia has early-stage kidney disease - she is almost 16 - so I very much relate to the recent dilemma over food and the various modifications required to keep her happy and nourished. She currently remains well though and sends you some Siamese love.

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Our cat Mia has early-stage kidney disease - she is almost 16 - so I very much relate to the recent dilemma over food and the various modifications required to keep her happy and nourished. She currently remains well though and sends you some Siamese love.

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She's a real beauty. I've always has a soft spot for oriental type cats.

One of my customers had just bought her spoilt brat of a daughter a Persian kitten because she wanted one but I think it's a decision they'll live to regret.

Persians fell out of fashion some years ago as they're riddled with health problems. They started breeding then with such flat faces that they had all sorts of breathing problems, ulcerated eyes and some couldn't even eat properly as they couldn't open their mouths wide enough....and that's before you even get on to the subject of daily grooming as their coats start to matt if you miss a day.
 
She's a real beauty. I've always has a soft spot for oriental type cats.

One of my customers had just bought her spoilt brat of a daughter a Persian kitten because she wanted one but I think it's a decision they'll live to regret.

Persians fell out of fashion some years ago as they're riddled with health problems. They started breeding then with such flat faces that they had all sorts of breathing problems, ulcerated eyes and some couldn't even eat properly as they couldn't open their mouths wide enough....and that's before you even get on to the subject of daily grooming as their coats start to matt if you miss a day.
I hope the daughter surprises everyone and steps up, and that it ends up being the making of her.
 
Jocky's been given another course of steroids, allowed back on his dry food (he's wolfed quite a bit down already, had vomited wet food twice at weekend), and once his appetite is definitely established again, we're trying Purina HA (hypoallergenic dry food). I've only ordered a 1.3kg pack in case he hates it. The automatic cat feeder is out once again, to his joy 😁
 
I hope the daughter surprises everyone and steps up, and that it ends up being the making of her.
I hope so too but I rather doubt it as she's the sort of kid who will loose interest once the novelty wears off.

Persians are seriously hard work as you have to give them a really good groom every day without fail as a quick once over with a brush won't do. When I was involved in rescue work we had quite a few Persians and Chinchillas handed in who's coats were so matted that the only thing we could do was to get the vet to shave it all off and they'd look like shorn sheep afterwards.
 
Near neighbour to our house in the early 1980s had a part Persian - very regal but in constant need of grooming.

Nearly as bad as my S-i-L's massive Maine Coon ... however, that's also big enough to handle easily - and he likes being groomed. So not a fight.

 
Our cat Mia has early-stage kidney disease - she is almost 16 - so I very much relate to the recent dilemma over food and the various modifications required to keep her happy and nourished. She currently remains well though and sends you some Siamese love.

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Oh my, she's utterly beautiful ❤️

I love Siams and OSH the bestest :)
 
She's a real beauty. I've always has a soft spot for oriental type cats.

One of my customers had just bought her spoilt brat of a daughter a Persian kitten because she wanted one but I think it's a decision they'll live to regret.

Persians fell out of fashion some years ago as they're riddled with health problems. They started breeding then with such flat faces that they had all sorts of breathing problems, ulcerated eyes and some couldn't even eat properly as they couldn't open their mouths wide enough....and that's before you even get on to the subject of daily grooming as their coats start to matt if you miss a day.
Siamese cats also used to have various health issues due to inbreeding, so breeding out has improved their health enormously, as well as creating new and interesting mixes. There only used to be about five colours of points but now there are lots. Mia is a Caramel Tortie-point.
 
Angel was brilliant btw, I wish my others had him at their bedside when they went - he really is a great vet and a lovely person.
Even when it went a bit tits up*, he let us stay the whole time, which hadn't happened with the previous 2 - they'd been taken out of the room to be given sedative and have an IV line put in, I prefer his way of doing it because we were there for the whole thing and never left Jakey's side.

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Nothing terrible, or at least nothing I found distressing - the sedative was given and he was in deep sleep completely out of it and unaware, but the first attempt was injected into his kidney but it turned out his circulation to his kidneys was so compromised that the anaesthetic was just sitting there instead of going into his bloodstream, so another injection had to be given into the vein on his front leg. This was all fine, there was no distress involved to either us or Jakey who was zonked out. I preferred this over the cat being removed to another room and us being reunited when sedated and a cannula put in place like happened with other cats with different vets attending them - it meant we were with him through the entire process and could see the care and love that he was treated with.
I agree, great vet. He let us stay for Wolfie & Hanson, he even left the room to give us a last 5 mins with them. He also let me stroke their heads when administering the narcota.

I like all the staff there.
 
She currently remains well though and sends you some Siamese love.

and a WAAAAAAAAH?

i used to know some people who had a household that included a labrador, two newfoundlands*, two fairly standard moggies and a siamese kitty - she was firmly in charge and could usually be heard over whatever else was going on...

* allegedly dogs, although i'm not sure they didn't get stuck with two small black bears instead
 
Siamese cats also used to have various health issues due to inbreeding, so breeding out has improved their health enormously, as well as creating new and interesting mixes. There only used to be about five colours of points but now there are lots. Mia is a Caramel Tortie-point.
OSH similarly involved a lot of outcrossing and are generally robust and healthy cats with a big genepool. The breeder I got mine from is a very good ethical breeder, and although both had health problems when they got old, it was ordinary old cat stuff that is common in all cats, not due to particular weakness from being a certain breed, or not being bred with care - all her cats are DNA tested for the major known genetic disease markers too.

The kitten I am going to go and meet after Xmas is a blue tabby point Siamese & White (I think technically they're called Colourpoint Bicolour Oriental, or Seychelloise depending upon which cat registry they are with, rather than Siamese) which seems to be quite a newfangled colour scheme in the Siam/OSH group of cats - it's given me something to look forward to and he's very pretty. I'll share photos if/when it works out. We both want him and the breeder knows us so should happen, I hope. It just seems like perfect timing that she had a little boy from her last litter that wanted a home, so fingers crossed.
 
I agree, great vet. He let us stay for Wolfie & Hanson, he even left the room to give us a last 5 mins with them. He also let me stroke their heads when administering the narcota.

I like all the staff there.

I've stayed with all of them for the final bit, but with the other 2 the vet took them off for sedation and to insert a cannula then brought them back to us, whereas Angel did everything in the room with us.
The man's a bloody genius at injections, I think that's why, he's not messing about trying to find a vein or anything he's straight in there in the right place and doesn't mind doing it with a nervous audience.
 
We might also ask the vet nurse about what kittens/youngsters they have floating about needing homes (she said yesterday they always have kittens), N wants 2 cats and it would be good to take in one in need as well, if it can be arranged for around the same time as getting the other one - fuck introducing adult cats, right bloody pain in the arse!
 
I've stayed with all of them for the final bit, but with the other 2 the vet took them off for sedation and to insert a cannula then brought them back to us, whereas Angel did everything in the room with us.
The man's a bloody genius at injections, I think that's why, he's not messing about trying to find a vein or anything he's straight in there in the right place and doesn't mind doing it with a nervous audience.
I think it's an important thing to do. I've spoken to vets who've taken a somewhat dim view of owners who just drop them off and leave. Mrs SFM was too upset to come with me with Buttons but I hugged her throughout and told her she was loved as she faded out. The surgery even sent us a card afterwards expressing their condolence. Getting a bit teary eyed thinking about it so best get off this thread as I'm in work and have to talk to customers!
 
We might also ask the vet nurse about what kittens/youngsters they have floating about needing homes (she said yesterday they always have kittens), N wants 2 cats and it would be good to take in one in need as well, if it can be arranged for around the same time as getting the other one - fuck introducing adult cats, right bloody pain in the arse!
We got Marvin from them, they offered us his sister too but as we already had 2 cats we said no, 4 seemed too much, only for Bestie to stray his way into our home shortly after.
 
I can't recall Jakey ever showing any interest whatsoever in cardboard boxes.
He was an odd fella for sure, the most uncatlike cat I've ever met.
The other 2 would wage war over ownership of a box, whereas if I offered him one he'd just move away from it.
He didn't have any interest in toys or playing either (with things that weren't alive, small, and terrified), except for he would pick up a bit of his own poo from the litter tray and bat it about before taking it to bed with him :rolleyes:
 
Arrangements have been made, unless either party changes their mind it looks like we are picking up a kitten just after Xmas.

Am now in a kittenproof the flat frenzy - it's one thing to have stuff all over the place when you've got an elderly cat that doesn't climb or try to break things or eat random inanimate objects, but a 6 month old baby is going to be a very different kettle of fish.

We're not going to get any sleep for the next 6 months while he pounces on our heads to wake us up every morning, are we? :eek:
 
Arrangements have been made, unless either party changes their mind it looks like we are picking up a kitten just after Xmas.

Am now in a kittenproof the flat frenzy - it's one thing to have stuff all over the place when you've got an elderly cat that doesn't climb or try to break things or eat random inanimate objects, but a 6 month old baby is going to be a very different kettle of fish.

We're not going to get any sleep for the next 6 months while he pounces on our heads to wake us up every morning, are we? :eek:
Really pleased for you, and him! You're all going to have so much fun together.
 
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