Work starts on the eagerly awaited new Foxtons office on Brixton Road

[TruXta]

Ah, so in the absence of finding any actual examples of me 'obsessively' going "on and on" about them, you're now saying that I'm still talking about them anyway?

For the record: that's bullshit and you're wrong. I'm not blaming hipsters for Foxtons, Brixton Square, vanishing affordable housing, the lack of new council housing, the eviction of the squats, the pricing out of small businesses or most of the other things that I feel have been instrumental in changing the character of Brixton for the worse.

Ah, so the influx of hipsters has in your opinion had nothing to do with the rise of Brixton Village, which in its turn has not notched the pace of gentrification up, which again has nothing to do with Foxtons, Brixton Square etc? Golly, how could I be so wrong.

 

[Rushy]

It is.

In fact, I'd prefer to have hipsters moving into the old squats in Coldharbour Lane than upwardly mobile professional types who I suspect will be quick to start lodging complaints about the noise coming from the oiks.

As Gramsci has pointed out - noise complaints do not just affect the wealthy. The professional classes, however, often feel more empowered or are less intimidated by a large corporate system such as that of the council.

 

[cuppa tee]

As Gramsci has pointed out - noise complaints do not just affect the wealthy. The professional classes, however, often feel more empowered or are less intimidated by a large corporate system such as that of the council.

maybe the Council are also more inclined to indulge high band council tax payers

 

[Rushy]

maybe the Council are also more inclined to indulge high band council tax payers

Well if that's the case places like the Albert and the 414 won't need to worry as the flats around there will almost certainly be in the bottom half of the tax band table - if not just the lowest three bands.

But I don't think you're right, since our council tax is in the upper half and I can't generally get a coherent response out of them.

 

[ViolentPanda]

i think so. they're basically yuppies who want to be cool. middle class, self-obsessed, lots of spare cash, identifiable lifestyles of conspicuous consumption. how are they not?

Yuppies tended to be "professionals", though, and I don't think wearing skinny jeans, riding a fixie and toting an iPad are a profession, even when done with a nod to post-modern irony.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I heartily agree about Bon Iver and the trousers. Only punks and speed-freaks should be allowed to wear skinny jeans.

Speedfreaks only tended to wear skinny jeans because it was easier to shoplift from Mothercare than Debenhams.

 

[TruXta]

Speedfreaks only tended to wear skinny jeans because it was easier to shoplift from Mothercare than Debenhams.

I defer to your obviously superiour knowledge on the topic.

 

[Ozone]

One mention of the word in two months. Not much of an 'obsession' then.

Interestingly (or not!) a search brings up 789 posts with the word "hipster" in it, 79 of which are from the Editor, leaving 710 from the other uh 44 000 odd members of Urban75.

Make of it what you will....

 

[editor]

Interestingly (or not!) a search brings up 789 posts with the word "hipster" in it, 79 of which are from the Editor, leaving 710 from the other uh 44 000 odd members of Urban75.

Make of it what you will....

Oh great. A stat man with time on his hands. Fascinating.

Seeing as you're so interested, could you tell me how many of those posts are me typing out the word myself, as opposed to quoting something, or the word appearing in a quoted post? Just to make your pointless stats vaguely meaningful, like.

 

[secateurz]

I think when the editor says hipster, he thinks of people like me : Spent less time in Brix than he has (only 5 years for me), younger, more disposable income and a more corporate job.

Throw in the hive mind of the younger gen that will swarm to an 'in' area, order a burger and instagram it for their friends..and the green eyes/resentment/fear of change of those who feel a little displaced is there for all to see.

 

[cuppa tee]

Throw in the hive mind of the younger gen that will swarm to an 'in' area, order a burger and instagram it for their friends..and the green eyes/resentment/fear of change of those who feel a little displaced is there for all to see.

is gen used as shorthand for generation or gentry in this context ?

 

[editor]

I think when the editor says hipster, he thinks of people like me : Spent less time in Brix than he has (only 5 years for me), younger, more disposable income and a more corporate job.

Please don't try and project this drivel on to me. Thanks.

 

[MillwallShoes]

blame the game, not the players.

 

[gabi]

I don't think hipsters have anything to do with foxtons tbh. Most will be making 28k working for media agencies and as such the property ladders not an issue.

We have clapham to blame for this shit. It's city workers. The sort of people who tuck in their shirts on weekends. We should reserve our hatred for this lot, not hipsters.

And the suggestion that hipsters aren't politically interested which i vaguely saw mentioned up thread is absurd for anyone who has read the hipster bible, vice magazine (or seen any of their docos)

 

[MillwallShoes]

I don't think hipsters have anything to do with foxtons tbh. Most will be making 28k working for media agencies and as such the property ladders not an issue.

We have clapham to blame for this shit. It's city workers. The sort of people who tuck in their shirts on weekends. We should reserve our hatred for this lot, not hipsters.

And the suggestion that hipsters aren't politically interested which i vaguely saw mentioned up thread is absurd for anyone who has read the hipster bible, vice magazine (or seen any of their docos)

how can you blame anyone who moves there, really? if i earned a shit load of money, i'd live in somewhere desirable. they like it in brixton, so they move there...

blame the way the property market works, if anything - but even then, want can be done about it? towns where flats are priced at 150k and nothing above? it's irreversible in the current system. as i've said, and it's a bit glib, but "blame the game, not the players". i can't really resent anyone who earns enough dough to buy a nice flat. if i had the dough, i'd buy a nice house where i want to live, too.

 

[MillwallShoes]

and ed, if you think this website doesnt have an influence on these things, you're naive! this website is the fifth result on a brixton google search! you rightly report how much of a great place it is, and people will be influenced by that.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

What we need is someone to say A man who, beyond the age of 26, finds himself on a tube can count himself as a failure.

Maybe that will stop them all moving to Brixton because it has a tube station

and yes, I know it wasn't Thatcher. I've actually met people who refuse to go on buses as they're for the working class

Wiki

• Attributed to her in Commons debates, 2003-07-02, column 407 and Commons debates, 2004-06-15 column 697. According to a letter to the Daily Telegraph by Alistair Cooke on 2 November 2006, this sentiment originated with Loelia Ponsonby, one of the wives of 2nd Duke of Westminster who said "Anybody seen in a bus over the age of 30 has been a failure in life". In a letter published the next day, also in the Daily Telegraph, Hugo Vickers claims Loelia Ponsonby admitted to him that she had borrowed it from Brian Howard. There is no solid evidence that Margaret Thatcher ever quoted this statement with approval, or indeed shared the sentiment.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Margaret_Thatcher

 

[Belushi]

Residents woke up yesterday to the sight of "Yuppies Out" scrawled across the gleaming glass windows of the new branch of Foxtons estate agents in Brixton, south London.

Which of you was it?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentis...ation-london-akin-social-cleansing?CMP=twt_gu

 

[ViolentPanda]

blame the game, not the players.

Haters gonna hate.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Which of you was it?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentis...ation-london-akin-social-cleansing?CMP=twt_gu

Tragic

Meanwhile, it seems that housing worries are not limited to those on low incomes, with the wife of Mark Carney, the new Bank of England governor, complaining that her family is struggling to find a place to live in London, despite his £874,000 pay packet and £5,000-a-week housing allowance.

FFS

 

[MillwallShoes]

Haters gonna hate.

word.

 

[leanderman]

and ed, if you think this website doesnt have an influence on these things, you're naive! this website is the fifth result on a brixton google search! you rightly report how much of a great place it is, and people will be influenced by that.

In other news, I briefly met, literally, for the, like, first time, the editor in the Effra Social tonight.

 

[Gramsci]

Which of you was it?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentis...ation-london-akin-social-cleansing?CMP=twt_gu

I looked up the Carpenters estate and found one of Lambeths esteemed officers , former Town Centre Manager , now at Newham doing her bit for residents:

Jo Negrini, director of strategic regeneration, planning and Olympic Legacy with Newham Council, said that the decision to redevelop the estate rested with the council and not UCL.
‘It is not taking the flak for UCL. It is taking responsibility for the decision,’ she added. ‘The decision was taken by the council.’

Well I suppose Newham has to "rebalance" its population even more so than Lambeth.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

In other news, I briefly met, literally, for the, like, first time, the editor in the Effra Social tonight.

Awesome like

 

[Gramsci]

In other news, I briefly met, literally, for the, like, first time, the editor in the Effra Social tonight.

and how was it for u?

 

[editor]

and ed, if you think this website doesnt have an influence on these things, you're naive! this website is the fifth result on a brixton google search! you rightly report how much of a great place it is, and people will be influenced by that.

Funny thing is that I've had more than a few emails complaining that my articles make Brixton look 'bad.'

I'm at all not sure that all the articles I post up are unquestionably positive and loved up about Brixton either.

 

[leanderman]

and how was it for u?

Emotional

 

[AprilNatalie]

At the end of the day, the way I see it is that its ridiculously territorial for anyone to make a comment on who moves into a certain area or not. So what if younger people are moving into a new area of London because it's increasing in popularity (and not to mention, in price) - if anything this reflects positively on the area itself. The same thing happened with East and is now happening in most of South London (Peckham is a prime example). Whether its 'hipsters', 'yuppies', 'chavs' or any other irrelevantly labeled person who chooses to move here isn't the issue in my opinion. All that Brixton stands to loose in this instance its cultural history, which ironically is one of the reason visitors prospective buyers are attracted to the area. So in this respect, yes I agree that perhaps the new Foxton's doesn't fit in. However, that's no reason to throw around stereotypes or labels of any kind, nor to act like anyone has any right to say who is allowed to move into the area or not. If we love Brixton and London in itself surely we should be proud that it is gaining recognition as a desirable place to be and to live.

 

[editor]

All that Brixton stands to loose in this instance its cultural history, which ironically is one of the reason visitors prospective buyers are attracted to the area.

I'm not entirely convinced that the majority of people now moving into Brixton are doing so because they are attracted to its 'cultural history'.

I'd say many are more attracted by what it has to offer now, as well as its proximity to central London, the Village, the trendy bars, the excellent transport links and the fact that it's it's seen as a 'nicer' and 'safer' place to live than in the past.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

However, that's no reason to throw around stereotypes or labels of any kind, nor to act like anyone has any right to say who is allowed to move into the area or not. If we love Brixton and London in itself surely we should be proud that it is gaining recognition as a desirable place to be and to live.

....except the have-nots, whose families have been here for generations in some cases, are being swept away because they can't afford to stay.