Wonky 18th century pub, The Crooked House, mysteriously burns to the ground after new owners take over

[Riff]

Reading through this just goes to show how flimsy UK laws are around historic/listed buildings and I find this extremely upsetting and infuriating.

I absolutely detest the concept of "wilful neglect" which so many owners of such buildings are guilty of. Some local councils could do more but either won't do so or often can't afford to.

In my home city of Newcastle there's a 15th-century pub called The Cooperage. The current private owners are just happy to let it rot away with no sense of care or appreciation of heritage. They are more interested in the land it sits on and the £££ that land is worth.

There's an online petition to save it and a Facebook page (I can post links if admin are OK with it), but not a lot seems to be happening.

Sign the Petition

SAVE THE COOPERAGE - NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE

www.change.org

Save The Cooperage | Facebook

Welcome.. The Cooperage, dating from 1430, is one of Newcastle's oldest, historically important buildings, located on the city's ancient Quayside. It is currently under threat of irreversible...

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[existentialist]

Reading through this just goes to show how flimsy UK laws are around historic/listed buildings and I find this extremely upsetting and infuriating.

I absolutely detest the concept of "wilful neglect" which so many owners of such buildings are guilty of. Some local councils could do more but either won't do so or often can't afford to.

In my home city of Newcastle there's a 15th-century pub called The Cooperage. The current private owners are just happy to let it rot away with no sense of care or appreciation of heritage. They are more interested in the land it sits on and the £££ that land is worth.

There's an online petition to save it and a Facebook page (I can post links if admin are OK with it), but not a lot seems to be happening.

Post the damn links.

 

[Riff]

Post the damn links.

Done!

 

[moochedit]

New arrests in Crooked House pub inquiry

Two arrests are made as part of the inquiry into the pub, hit by fire before being demolished.

www.bbc.co.uk

A woman, 34, and a man, 44, both from Leicestershire, have been detained.

They were held on suspicion of conspiracy to commit arson with intent or being reckless as to whether life was endangered, police said.

The pair have since been released on bail while investigations continue, Staffordshire Police added.

Three other men, aged 66, 51 and 33, all previously arrested on suspicion of arson with intent to endanger life, remain on bail.

 

[cupid_stunt]

A woman, 34, and a man, 44, both from Leicestershire, have been detained.

Interesting, as the owners live in Leicestershire, Carly Taylor is reported to be 34, and Adam Taylor is reported to be 44.

 

[moochedit]

Interesting, as the owners live in Leicestershire, Carly Taylor is reported to be 34, and Adam Taylor is 44.

Wow what a co-incedence what are the odds?

 

[moochedit]

Interesting, as the owners live in Leicestershire, Carly Taylor is reported to be 34, and Adam Taylor is reported to be 44.

Probably the beeb are just quoting the police statement.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Probably the beeb are just quoting the police statement.

Probably, hence on this occasion I had to 'do my own research'.

 

[moochedit]

Probably, hence on this occasion I had to 'do my own research'.

 

[mr steev]

Wow what a co-incedence what are the odds?

For conspiracy too.

Probably the same odds that it was pure coincidence that the building was destroyed weeks after new owners who wanted it gone had bought it

 

[existentialist]

Interesting, as the owners live in Leicestershire, Carly Taylor is reported to be 34, and Adam Taylor is reported to be 44.

That could quite possibly be perfectly coincidental

 

[Wilf]

I bet they're fucking Tories as well.

 

[StoneRoad]

That could quite possibly be perfectly coincidental

yeah, and I'm the emperor of china ...

 

[editor]

New arrests in Crooked House pub inquiry

Two arrests are made as part of the inquiry into the pub, hit by fire before being demolished.

www.bbc.co.uk

Things are warming up nicely. I'd love it if they were compelled to rebuild the pub themselves. By hand.

 

[Wilf]

Things are warming up nicely. I'd love it if they were compelled to rebuild the pub themselves. By hand.

Under strict supervision:

'NO! that line of bricks is straight. Make it more wonky!'

 

[two sheds]

Times like this you feel that it's a shame that running the gauntlet was done away with.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Things are warming up nicely

That's what got us here in the first place

 

[trabuquera]

Things are warming up nicely. I'd love it if they were compelled to rebuild the pub themselves. By hand.

... using only 18th-century tools and technology, and on 18th-century labourers' wages and food rations. For authenticity. (No film crews allowed, so they can't monetise it into a retro 'journey' either).

 

[moochedit]

... using only 18th-century tools and technology, and on 18th-century labourers' wages and food rations. For authenticity. (No film crews allowed, so they can't monetise it into a retro 'journey' either).

And 18th century safety standards.

 

[Wilf]

And 18th century safety standards.

Then bump them off as they did with the labourers who built the pyramids.

 

[WouldBe]

... using only 18th-century tools and technology, and on 18th-century labourers' wages and food rations. For authenticity. (No film crews allowed, so they can't monetise it into a retro 'journey' either).

So lots of beer then. A pub nearby would be quite handy.

 

[pseudonarcissus]

... using only 18th-century tools and technology, and on 18th-century labourers' wages and food rations. For authenticity. (No film crews allowed, so they can't monetise it into a retro 'journey' either).

No modern technology except a live cam linked to the sub-thread to “the joy of bricks” so we can keep an eye on progress

 

[pseudonarcissus]

No modern technology except a live cam linked to the sub-thread to “the joy of bricks” so we can keep an eye on progress

It will be nearly as entertaining and relaxing as the live cam we will have of a 16 year old nurturing a sycamore sapling..for the next 100 years

 

[blossie33]

Another Leicestershire man arrested now...

New arrest in Crooked House pub fire investigation

A 23-year-old man is arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit arson with intent.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ddraig]

ordered to re build!

Crooked House: Owners of wonky pub ordered to rebuild

An enforcement order requires the building to be built back to what it was prior to the fire.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[editor]

ordered to re build!

Crooked House: Owners of wonky pub ordered to rebuild

An enforcement order requires the building to be built back to what it was prior to the fire.

www.bbc.co.uk

Now that's just beautiful.

The owners of The Crooked House pub have been ordered to rebuild "Britain's wonkiest inn" after it was destroyed last year in a suspected arson attack.
South Staffordshire Council has served an enforcement notice on the owners of the pub in Himley, near Dudley.
The council said it had engaged with the owners since the demolition but had reached a point where formal action was considered necessary.
It requires the building to be built back to what it was prior to the fire.
The pub's owners have 30 days to appeal and the notice must be complied with within three years.

 

[Elpenor]

“Rebuild your pub, twat told”

 

[cupid_stunt]

Sadly, I'll be surprised if it ever happens.

I wonder if the police are getting nearer to charging anyone.

 

[Silas Loom]

Does the requirement to restore to the prior state trump building regs over sloping walls etc?

 

[Spymaster]

Why are they giving them 3 years to do it?