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Why the Guardian is going down the pan!

because it's weird tribalism? because you don't like the fan culture of your local team? because they're fucking terrible and you want to watch the sport played at a high level? there's as many different reasons not to bother with your local team as there are people who don't bother with their local team, and all of them are at least as valid as 'it's the nearest team to where I was born'
I had to defriend an Urbanite on FB once cos of this horrible tribalistic nonsense they were promulgating. It’s no wonder there’s so much violence on and off the pitch.
 
Why would you?

Agree about their fans. Back in the day, the hooligans from Leeds were as bad as they come.
All fans are like this IME (at least en masse). All that drunken chanting on trains. They don’t seem to realise how frightening they are.
 
Ta - how did you do that? I normally never have a problem with guardian type links but it kept putting [MEDIA]]/[MEDIA] round it which didn't display and didn't display it when I put the full link address. Was it just removing the https?
Aye, you might not even need the double u double double u.
 
I know many football fans, most of whom are pretty tiresome on the topic of football - including lots of essentialism about the right way to be a football fan. fuck that, enjoy shit however you like.
I do think better of people who engage when they're there rather than just spectate though, otherwise why not just watch a better game on the telly? Don't mean you have to be a plastic ultra, I used to appreciate the old fellas moaning about the lino for ninety minutes with or without justification about as much, at least they're having more of a live experience. And those just watching are depending on the rest of the crowd to provide the unique football atmosphere TM by and large.
 
'At the time Dore was in her early 20s, a poet with a communications degree working as a publicist at a publisher of self-help and psychology textbooks. She had been struck by how the research she encountered through her job could help people to gain new insight into their thoughts, feelings and behaviours – if only they knew to seek it out.

Tarot, she thought, could be a similar conduit to awareness and introspection. These two strands – barriers to self-help, and tarot as a path to it – travelled together in Dore’s mind, culminating in a “strange and unlikely marriage”: she became a licensed social worker and full-time tarot reader.'

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'Tarot is among a range of mystic practices to have seen a mainstream resurgence in recent years. Most obvious is astrology, now almost adjacent to psychoanalysis in our shared lexicon – but there’s also psychics, reincarnation, supportive spiritual energies (such as with manifesting), and even witchcraft.'

But I note she uses the Waite tarot illustrated by Pamela Coleman yet makes no reference to colour (which was very important to the golden dawn) or qabalah, with which the trumps very much associated with. Not surprised she's a background in self-help publishing
 
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I've got a lot of respect for fans of their local, lower-division teams, particularly the ones who go and see them in all weathers. The upper divisions of the league wouldn't be the same without them.
My BIL's involved in his local (what used to be junior league) football team. Does a lot of fundraising, helps put together the programmes, sells them on match day, writes the match reports, that kind of thing. He's one of the folk out watching them in the sleet and snow in some unprepossessing ground in the back of beyond on a Tuesday night.

He also has his other team that he's been supporting since he was a kid and he goes to see them sometimes too but a lot less often than the local one.
 
Cowden had a decent side before that clusterfuck of a season referenced above.

Killie 2-1 Cowdenbeath from 1990- a very strong Killie team containing the late Tommy Burns. A few of that Cowden team were still around in 92/93. The video features a young Jim Shite presenting (now on Sky Sports) and Jock Brown commentating. Happy days.

If it's any consolation Cowden here are wearing a pub team strip bought from the local sports shop, no badge, and a weird sponsor :D

We'll see if we can get this thread re-named "Why Cowdenbeath are going down the pan" but I don't think treelover's around anymore to make it happen.

Fuck the Guardian anyway, everyone knows it's shite. A bit like a thread entitled "Why Boris Johnson's a wank".
 
Why would you?

Agree about their fans. Back in the day, the hooligans from Leeds were as bad as they come.
Back in the 70s, me and some mates arrived late for an away game at Elland Road, and accidentally headed for the wrong end. On that occasion I had reason to be thankful to Yorkshire dibble for holding back the orcs from Leeds as, with two fingered salutes and wanker hand gestures, we calmly sauntered round to the away end :thumbs:
 
I saw Palace win an FA Cup game away there in the '70s. We had to walk right through the faithful to get to the specials. Don't say a word was the advice as the accent was a bit of a give away
 
Ta - how did you do that? I normally never have a problem with guardian type links but it kept putting [MEDIA]]/[MEDIA] round it which didn't display and didn't display it when I put the full link address. Was it just removing the https?
the Guardian webpage isn't one of the listed 'Media' types, its a standard webpage so wont show up in that format. If you want to link to the actual video you will have to look at the page source code, find the original video link they are using to embed it, and then link to that

Thus:
 
All fans are like this IME (at least en masse). All that drunken chanting on trains. They don’t seem to realise how frightening they are.
Completely agree. Still haunted by being on a train with 3 Chelsea fans, hours of racist chanting, kicking in the door to a toilet. Can still picture them.

Comment when the train stopped at Nuneaton “It’s Bobby Sands’ station”
 
See, that's another example. Had I been from Sarf London, no way could I have supported a club like Chelsea. Nor an Arsenal fan if from North London. There's loads of reasons not to support your local club.
 
But early 90s also all the rage with art school kids now

I work next to what I think is some sort of fashion college. It's a bit weird seeing them all milling around outside the office wearing the exact same outfits I was wearing in 1994. It makes me feel like some sort of perv who's snuck in to the school disco.

Has the graun done any articles on why so many kids are wearing baggy jeans and Nirvana t-shirts? :|
 
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