Why the Guardian is going down the pan!

[seventh bullet]

And in Russia.

 

[JTG]

'Only men urinate in the street. Except me, I used to do it. But that's OK cos I was really drunk and needed a slash. Anyway, stop doing it men!'

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/05/men-urinate-street-hamburg-residents-urine

 

[captainmission]

A horrible little sneery piece about the death of Konstandinos Scurfield (to add to the chorus of similar guardian pieces).

In which Deborah Orr calls his death a pointless waste, that his parents only support his sacrifice out of loyalty and there's a moral equivalence of him joining the YPG and someone joining ISIS.

And later calls him a 21st century crusader and vigilante on twitter.

If only his betters had stopped him from making such poor decision

 

[Idris2002]

there's a moral equivalence of him joining the YPG and someone joining ISIS.

I thought you might be exagerrating, but no, that's what it says.

I got the Guardian Weekly today, and it includes a piece by her husband reviewing a book about Prince Charles, which concludes that the heir of sorrows is a bloody nice bloke actually. Because Chaz has allegedly smoked a spliff or two in his day.

"That might be alright for Will Self or one of those fellows".

 

[Idris2002]

I also found this piece about DRC by Owen "no I'm not here for work experience" Jones to be a bit "by the numbers".

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/06/ignore-congo-atrocities-africa-drc-horror

 

[Flavour]

Can hipsters save the world?

...a new book by the economist Douglas McWilliams, The Flat White Economy, suggests that hipsters, and the ecosystem surrounding them, represent the future of British prosperity. Not only are they greener and more ethical than the rest of us, but the industries in which they work are driving our economy. We mock them at our peril.

 

[NoXion]

McWilliams identifies 10 other British areas, including Leeds and Slough, where this kind of economy might take off, but warns that the capital will continue to dominate.

Grrr. Stay the fuck out of my town, you hipster cunts!

 

[Maurice Picarda]

After this article went to press it emerged that Douglas McWilliams is also facing trial for allegedly assaulting a prostitute on New Year’s Eve.

Still flogging his book on the Graun bookshop, though.

 

[Lo Siento.]

Still flogging his book on the Graun bookshop, though.

and that article (review?) didn't exactly engage in an exacting critique of his obviously shit premise...

 

[Maurice Picarda]

And anyway, it "emerged" well before the article went to press.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ute-beaten-economist-crack-cocaine-binge.html

http://www.urban75.net/forums/threa...lish-book-on-top-tories.316022/#post-13752884

 

[danny la rouge]

OK, so this is Steve Bell's cartoon this morning:

So, what's the joke here? What is he satirising? What message is he trying to get across?

 

[SikhWarrioR]

The guardian isnt going down the pan the guardian is already down the pan thanks to it's support for teflon tony blair's nu-labour conservative lite clones. Then the guardian pulled the chain with its support for clegg's lib-democrat conservative useful idiots. I stopped buying the rag a decade ago

 

[Idris2002]

OK, so this is Steve Bell's cartoon this morning:

So, what's the joke here? What is he satirising? What message is he trying to get across?

There's an old one-liner (I was about to say coined by Dorothy Parker, but I actually I don't think it was her) that in life you should "try anything once, except incest and folk-dancing".

I mean, one has to draw the line somewhere, old chap.

 

[danny la rouge]

There's an old one-liner (I was about to say coined by Dorothy Parker, but I actually I don't think it was her) that in life you should "try anything once, except incest and folk-dancing".

I mean, one has to draw the line somewhere, old chap.

Yes, I'm aware of the quote. Sir Thomas Beecham. But what is Bell trying to say? That the SNP have tried everything once, no exceptions? That Scottish voters have tried everything once? What?

Surely for it to qualify as satire it actually has to mean something?

 

[Idris2002]

Yes, I'm aware of the quote. Sir Thomas Beecham. But what is Bell trying to say? That the SNP have tried everything once, no exceptions? That Scottish voters have tried everything once? What?

Surely for it to qualify as satire it actually has to mean something?

The message is surely that the SNP is a party for folk-dancing nonces, or to be more precise that the grey mists of a Scottish republic are no substitute for substantive policy pledges like "no trident".

 

[Hocus Eye.]

OK, so this is Steve Bell's cartoon this morning:

So, what's the joke here? What is he satirising? What message is he trying to get across?

I guess the joke is in implying that the SNP is parochial and inward-looking.

 

[Flavour]

It's a shit cartoon either way

 

[Frankie Jack]

http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Sir_Arnold_Bax/

A sympathetic Scot summed it all up very neatly in the remark, "You should make a point of trying every experience once, excepting incest and folk dancing."
Sir Arnold Bax, Farewell my Youth (1943)

 

[Idris2002]

http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Sir_Arnold_Bax/

 

[danny la rouge]

I guess the joke is in implying that the SNP is parochial and inward-looking.

Well, it could be. But I'm guessing it's the Beecham reference. The question is, what is the relevance of the allusion?

So far all I'm seeing is "poncy metropolitan elitist refers to well known quote, but omits to give a context. Oh, and 'kilts'".

 

[danny la rouge]

http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Sir_Arnold_Bax/

Ok, I stand corrected. I always saw it attributed to Beecham (who was a well known conductor when I was young).

 

[Idris2002]

Ok, I stand corrected. I always saw it attributed to Beecham (who was a well known conductor when I was young).

 

[danny la rouge]

I tried reading a Steve Bell cartoon once.

 

[Frankie Jack]

Ok, I stand corrected. I always saw it attributed to Beecham (who was a well known conductor when I was young).

I've seen Beecham attributed too. I'd never heard of Bax till now.

 

[Idris2002]

I've seen Beecham attributed too. I'd never heard of Bax till now.

And surely you agree that it sounds very Dorothy Parker-esque, even if it wasn't her?

 

[Frankie Jack]

And surely you agree that it sounds very Dorothy Parker-esque, even if it wasn't her?

Indeed. Still baffled as to the context. Does Bell ever explain what his more obscure cartoons mean? It's not the first time I've had no idea what the hell he was on about.

 

[Idris2002]

Indeed. Still baffled as to the context. Does Bell ever explain what his more obscure cartoons mean? It's not the first time I've had no idea what the hell he was on about.

I think the phrase you're looking for is "phoning it in". He obviously doesn't like Salmond at all, and it may mean no more than that.

 

[phildwyer]

OK, so this is Steve Bell's cartoon this morning:

So, what's the joke here? What is he satirising? What message is he trying to get across?

English people don't think it's racist to make fun of Celts.

 

[phildwyer]

A horrible little sneery piece about the death of Konstandinos Scurfield (to add to the chorus of similar guardian pieces).

In which Deborah Orr calls his death a pointless waste, that his parents only support his sacrifice out of loyalty and there's a moral equivalence of him joining the YPG and someone joining ISIS.

That's an excellent piece. Most of their vehement supporters in Britain have no idea what the YPG are about. And she's absolutely right about the dangers of anti-Islamism.

 

[Idris2002]

You do realise don't you, phil, that Marilyn was just a nurse doing her job?