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Everytime I see him I think why isn't he stroking a white cat sat on his lap😐

I guess saying people "will own less and be happier" has made him enemies and brought his profile up somewhat, given he isn't short of a few pennies himself.
 
Everytime I see him I think why isn't he stroking a white cat sat on his lap😐

I guess saying people "will own less and be happier" has made him enemies and brought his profile up somewhat, given he isn't short of a few pennies himself.
Not less. NOTHING.
Thay oxygen your breathing isn't yours, you're consuming it and you need to pay the people who own the land on which trees are recyling your carbon to oxygen.
They want to do EVERYTHING on a subscription model and yes, EVERYTHING, right down to underwear will be rented.
There will be NOTHING in your life that you own, because the real money making is based around the subscription model.
Normal people will be priced out of property ownership.
Property ownership will be made unaffordable (you could be worth to the north of £10 million, you still won't be able to keep a £50,000 two bedroom terraced house in a Northern milltown) and the first people who will be stung, will be those with mortgages.
They will airdrop enough free money to prevent "normal" people from rioting, with the odd ex multi-millionaire blowing themselves up outside an MPs constituency office.
My advice is invest in evil (Blackrock, Unilever, Microsoft, Boeing), then that way after the great reset, you'll be worth 20% of what you are now, if you're lucky.
 
it's like the last fifteen years never happened. you don't remember gordon brown saying - way back in 2007 - that affordable housing was one of the great causes of the day. and it's not like it's got better since then.
I get your point.
I'll make mine clearer.
You can own an elephant, but would you be able to afford to feed it?
Home ownership will be like buying a yacht.
You might be able to afford the window sticker, but you won't be able to afford all the other expenses that ownership attracts.
That's a whole new level.
 
Not less. NOTHING.
Thay oxygen your breathing isn't yours, you're consuming it and you need to pay the people who own the land on which trees are recyling your carbon to oxygen.

It's not as if I own the oxygen that I'm breathing right now. There's no deed or title to it. It's just there in all its abundance. I'm sure you could come up with any number of sci-fi scenarios in which the atmospheric commons is enclosed, but in reality it ain't happening.

Incidentally, creating artificial scarcity in the digital world is precisely the kind of thing that makes the bastards who want us to rent everything rub their hands with glee.
 
I get your point.
I'll make mine clearer.
You can own an elephant, but would you be able to afford to feed it?
Home ownership will be like buying a yacht.
You might be able to afford the window sticker, but you won't be able to afford all the other expenses that ownership attracts.
That's a whole new level.
the thing about owning an elephant is that lots of other people want to feed it too. home ownership will not be like buying a yacht, a yacht presupposes (in almost all cases) renting. renting a spot to keep it. the ability to move it to other places. and so on. home ownership presupposes a desire to stay in one place. and no renting, no harbour charges, really come within the idea of home ownership. i don't follow your bit about window stickers, it might mean something to you but it doesn't convey much to anyone else. the expenses home ownership attracts are in many cases lower than the expenses of renting - for example, it doesn't cost £15k a year to keep most flats up, yet that's about the minumum you'll find rented accommodation in many parts of london, generally with other expenses like council tax on top.

i'm not persuaded you've given this the thought you think you have
 
It's not as if I own the oxygen that I'm breathing right now. There's no deed or title to it. It's just there in all its abundance. I'm sure you could come up with any number of sci-fi scenarios in which the atmospheric commons is enclosed, but in reality it ain't happening.

Incidentally, creating artificial scarcity in the digital world is precisely the kind of thing that makes the bastards who want us to rent everything rub their hands with glee.
True, but that doesn't negate my point of their desire to monetise everything for their own benefit to the detriment of everyone else and it is all possible with centralised programmable CBDCs.

Artificial scarcity? Wow, is fiat money a real thing then?
 
Not less. NOTHING.
Thay oxygen your breathing isn't yours, you're consuming it and you need to pay the people who own the land on which trees are recyling your carbon to oxygen.
on the oxygen front, exhaled air contains about 78% nitrogen and 17% oxygen. it's not like people absorb the ~20% of oxygen that's in the air they inhale. so perhaps we should all charge each other for oxygen
 
Not less. NOTHING.
Thay oxygen your breathing isn't yours, you're consuming it and you need to pay the people who own the land on which trees are recyling your carbon to oxygen.
They want to do EVERYTHING on a subscription model and yes, EVERYTHING, right down to underwear will be rented.
There will be NOTHING in your life that you own, because the real money making is based around the subscription model.
Normal people will be priced out of property ownership.
Property ownership will be made unaffordable (you could be worth to the north of £10 million, you still won't be able to keep a £50,000 two bedroom terraced house in a Northern milltown) and the first people who will be stung, will be those with mortgages.
They will airdrop enough free money to prevent "normal" people from rioting, with the odd ex multi-millionaire blowing themselves up outside an MPs constituency office.
My advice is invest in evil (Blackrock, Unilever, Microsoft, Boeing), then that way after the great reset, you'll be worth 20% of what you are now, if you're lucky.
The guy is an arsehole, but this is the conspiracy version of what he was saying. It wasn't about a great conspiracy to remove ownership from people, he was proposing that people might not be bothered about ownership because technology would make renting easier and more attractive. He was exaggerating the point to try to increase impact - I doubt anyone really thinks that this will lead to owning nothing, and it was meant to be about why people would choose that in a positive way.

I don't think it's a particularly attractive future, so I don't think people will choose it, except in a few parts of life where it might be beneficial (car ownership for example - owning the asset of the car is incredibly expensive and it sits on your drive most of the time). But I don't think there's a global conspiracy to force it on the world - he's just a rich douchebag who likes to pretend he knows it all and wants to say important-sounding things.
 
The guy is an arsehole, but this is the conspiracy version of what he was saying. It wasn't about a great conspiracy to remove ownership from people, he was proposing that people might not be bothered about ownership because technology would make renting easier and more attractive. He was exaggerating the point to try to increase impact - I doubt anyone really thinks that this will lead to owning nothing, and it was meant to be about why people would choose that in a positive way.

I don't think it's a particularly attractive future, so I don't think people will choose it, except in a few parts of life where it might be beneficial (car ownership for example - owning the asset of the car is incredibly expensive and it sits on your drive most of the time). But I don't think there's a global conspiracy to force it on the world - he's just a rich douchebag who likes to pretend he knows it all and wants to say important-sounding things.
It wasn't even Schwab who said this. It was Ida Auken and it was just a wild guess at what might happen. Lots of idiots read it as the WEF want to take everything off us. Lots of funny stuff about Agenda 2030 if you want to look at weird yank conspiracy nonsense.
 
It wasn't even Schwab who said this. It was Ida Auken and it was just a wild guess at what might happen. Lots of idiots read it as the WEF want to take everything off us. Lots of funny stuff about Agenda 2030 if you want to look at weird yank conspiracy nonsense.
Yeah, lots of people try to predict the future and most of them get it wrong. These are knobheads with a bit of power predicting the future so I can see why it sparks some people's paranoia in a way. But ultimately they are not the people with real power to make things happen. WEF is just a talking shop really.

And if you take the example of cars, it's not that sinister a future being predicted. I already 'rent' my car transport, because I don't own a car and when I need one I use a combination of Zipcar and Uber/Bolt. And I like it that way. Oooooooh no, I've been BRAINWASHED!!
 
the thing about owning an elephant is that lots of other people want to feed it too. home ownership will not be like buying a yacht, a yacht presupposes (in almost all cases) renting. renting a spot to keep it. the ability to move it to other places. and so on. home ownership presupposes a desire to stay in one place. and no renting, no harbour charges, really come within the idea of home ownership. i don't follow your bit about window stickers, it might mean something to you but it doesn't convey much to anyone else. the expenses home ownership attracts are in many cases lower than the expenses of renting - for example, it doesn't cost £15k a year to keep most flats up, yet that's about the minumum you'll find rented accommodation in many parts of london, generally with other expenses like council tax on top.

i'm not persuaded you've given this the thought you think you have
They will find a way to make an existing property unaffordable to own.
I know home ownership isn't a business, but there is always a way.
For example, a moral cruisade against people who own much bigger houses than they need, taxing them more.
Already we see some politicians saying they want properties taxed more if they aren't being occupied all year round.
Then it becomes a slippery slope until we find there is legislation that disadvantages home owners and small landowners, but with large owners like Blackrock falling through the cracks.
 
True, but that doesn't negate my point of their desire to monetise everything for their own benefit to the detriment of everyone else and it is all possible with centralised programmable CBDCs.

They don't need some wanky digital money bullshit to monetise everything, they just go ahead and do it as far as they think they can get away with it. Look at the modern Triple-AAA video game industry for a sterling example. They didn't need CBDCs to start salami-slicing games and selling the individual pieces to customers. They didn't need CBCDs to stuff games full of microtransactions and lootboxes and other Skinner-box type mechanisms to extract cash from the people playing their games. They didn't need CBCDs to transition towards the "live service" model as a means of opening up new revenue streams and keeping them running.

Like most crypto cultists, you seem to think that the problem is because of specific trivialities like CBCDs, rather than the overriding profit motive that constantly drives capitalism towards trying to maximise exploitation at all times.

Artificial scarcity? Wow, is fiat money a real thing then?

You can exchange it for goods and services. It's real enough. What's fiat money got to do with digital scarcity though? Last time I checked, you couldn't infinitely copy physical goods or services provided by people.
 
They will find a way to make an existing property unaffordable to own.
I know home ownership isn't a business, but there is always a way.
For example, a moral cruisade against people who own much bigger houses than they need, taxing them more.
Already we see some politicians saying they want properties taxed more if they aren't being occupied all year round.
Then it becomes a slippery slope until we find there is legislation that disadvantages home owners and small landowners, but with large owners like Blackrock falling through the cracks.
right. so you think it's wrong to charge second home owners more, when they're blocking people from the area actually getting houses themselves. someone i know lives in a village in the yorkshire dales, has done all his life. he told me the village he lives in is utterly dead in winter, loads of houses empty because all the people who own them are in their primary residences. what's the future for villages like that, for villages in somerset, devon and cornwall and so on where rich scum, for want of a better term, have a) priced locals out and b) prevent any sort of community being generated by keeping their hands on a vast proportion of the houses? it's not like there's an inalienable right to own property, to own land, to act without any regard for other people's wellbeing or lives. sure, there's a right to housing. but not to the sort of land speculation you seem to like. there should be something like the universal public housing irish republican socialists eirigi propose UP Housing — Éirígí For A New Republic. and tbh a ban on landlordism and second (and third etc) homes.
 
But ultimately they are not the people with real power to make things happen. WEF is just a talking shop really.

Here is an overview of this years attendees from the WEF website. In what sense are they not the people with real power to make things happen?

WEF attendees.png

You don't need to be a conspiracy theorist to suppose that upon meeting up to talk about how to coordinate decisions for the upcoming period, they might actually start doing that.

Now I understand people can go too far and come up with all sorts of crazy conspiracy theories on top of an observation like this, but should we really just dismiss out of hand the observation that the WEF has some serious influence on global politics?
 
Yeah, lots of people try to predict the future and most of them get it wrong. These are knobheads with a bit of power predicting the future so I can see why it sparks some people's paranoia in a way. But ultimately they are not the people with real power to make things happen. WEF is just a talking shop really.

And if you take the example of cars, it's not that sinister a future being predicted. I already 'rent' my car transport, because I don't own a car and when I need one I use a combination of Zipcar and Uber/Bolt. And I like it that way. Oooooooh no, I've been BRAINWASHED!!
The subscription model over ownership is seen in sorts of areas-cars, houses even buying ground coffee🙄

My hunch is it suits the owners of capital to get a small but regular predictable returns and those same people move in the same circles as the WEF and can nudge the world that way so even without brainwashing people can't avoid that way of life. Lots of people aren't brainwashed into renting a house but can't buy but want to.

The WEF don't do themselves any favours by boasting many of their people are working in all sorts of governments around the world like some Fleming inspired real life Spectre🙄
 
There's subscriptions where you get sent a particular amount each month?

I don’t think it's ideal tbh but surely these subscription services for groceries are popping up because wages are so low rather than it being some sort of conspiracy
 
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