White civil rights leader has pretended to be black for years

[Citizen66]

This whole thread is pretty much predicated on race. If you don't like what you're hearing then why don't you just leave the thread, rather than mouthing off at others?

Or - even easier - you can fuck off?

 

[butchersapron]

This whole thread is pretty much predicated on race. If you don't like what you're hearing then why don't you just leave the thread, rather than mouthing off at others?

No it's not. What an odd thing to suddenly claim.

 

[Treacle Toes]

'predicated on race'...Hmm...the whole thread? I don't believe it is, just like I don't believe there are different 'races' of people...ethnicities and cultures yes.

 

[winifred]

No it's not. What an odd thing to suddenly claim.

What the bit about you mouthing off at others, or the bit about this thread being predicated on race? << *Couldn't give a shit if this is the wrong smilie*

Yes, this thread is predicated on race pretty much because of what it says on the tin - "White civil rights leader has pretended to be black for years"

 

[Treacle Toes]

indigenous Brits?

I am an indigenous Brit. I am not White.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Yes, this thread is predicated on race pretty much because of what it says on the tin - "White civil rights leader has pretended to be black for years"

No maybe that is your reading of it because you believe there are different races?

 

[winifred]

'predicated on race'...Hmm...the whole thread? I don't believe it is, just like I don't believe there are different 'races' of people...ethnicities and cultures yes.

I believe it is predicated on race, if only because that's how the media has framed it and that's how people generally view it.

Like yourself, I also don't believe in the concept of 'race'. It's based on anachronistic anthropogical 'science' from a bygone age. However, it's still prevalent within modern society, and consists of racial stereotyping.

 

[Treacle Toes]

I believe it is predicated on race, if only because that's how the media has framed it and that's how people generally view it.

I think you need to quote which posters here are doing the same. It's clear how the media have framed but it seems like you are saying that because someone posted this thread they are colluding in that media framing? How else can we start a discussion if not with the story, however badly framed.

Like yourself, I also don't believe in the concept of 'race'. It's based on anachronistic anthropogical 'science' from a bygone age. However, it's still prevalent within modern society, and consists of racial stereotyping.

I don't think you will find anyone here that has disagreed with that so far.

 

[winifred]

I am an indigenous Brit. I am not White.

Indigenous as in originating from, which I was relating to indigenous Caucasian Brits.

 

[butchersapron]

However,this person think its all made up.

 

[butchersapron]

Indigenous as in originating from, which I was relating to indigenous Caucasian Brits.

Oh yes. Oh yes,indeed.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Indigenous as in originating from, which I was relating to indigenous Caucasian Brits.

I originate from here/Britain. I am not Caucasian.

 

[killer b]

oh lol.

 

[J Ed]

I originate from here/Britain. I am not Caucasian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peoples_of_the_Caucasus#/media/File:Caucasus-ethnic_en.svg

 

[Athos]

... But I said sex/gender, not gender.

What do you mean by 'sex/gender'?

 

[Treacle Toes]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peoples_of_the_Caucasus#/media/File:Caucasus-ethnic_en.svg

Why are you linking me to that? Winifred obviously meant 'White' when using the term 'Causcasian' many people do.

 

[J Ed]

Why are you linking me to that? Winifred obviously meant 'White' when using the term 'Causcasian' many people do.

I thought that it would be funny to be a pedant

 

[winifred]

I think you need to quote which posters here are doing the same. It's clear how the media have framed but it seems like you are saying that because someone posted this thread they are colluding in that media framing? How else can we start a discussion if not with the story, however badly framed.

The fact that various posters have been talking about this story in terms of race i.e. a white woman allegedly pretending that she's black means that is is predicated in race, (hence the frequent use of the term 'black' within this thread).

I don't think you will find anyone here that has disagreed with that so far.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

 

[Treacle Toes]

I thought that it would be funny to be a pedant

Maybe should have quoted their post then? I was using in the context I understood them to mean..I wasn't misusing it because of that.

 

[J Ed]

Didn't think you were

 

[butchersapron]

Is this a picture of your dad?
Yes it is.

 

[winifred]

I originate from here/Britain. I am not Caucasian.

I also originate from Britain, and I'm Chinese. But would you say that indigenous Australians are the majority Caucasian population that we have atm, or the minority Aboriginal peoples that are indigenous to Australia?

 

[MrSki]

'predicated on race'...Hmm...the whole thread? I don't believe it is, just like I don't believe there are different 'races' of people...ethnicities and cultures yes.

I am a bit ignorant about a lot of things but are not will all part of the human race?

Indigenous as in originating from, which I was relating to indigenous Caucasian Brits.

Indigenous Brit my arse so are you of Roman descent that had large parts of its empire & citizens who originated from Africa or are you of Norse origin? Either Viking or Norman or do you perhaps come from a Saxon heritage? Maybe you are part of the human race that originated out of Africa?

 

[butchersapron]

S/he denied that were they were only interested in talking about race. Lucky. Because we almost touched on it through your massive obsession with it.

 

[Treacle Toes]

The fact that various posters have been talking about this story in terms of race i.e. a white woman allegedly pretending that she's black means that is is predicated in race, (hence the frequent use of the term 'black' within this thread).
.

Black/White are terms that can be shortcuts to describing ethnicities/phenotypes, as well as in the the collective political usage too.

I am pretty tuned into the nuances of this stuff too. Why not give examples?

I will start...1st example: you have posted in a way that suggests only White/Caucasian people are indigenous/natives/Brits.

 

[oryx]

I also originate from Britain, and I'm Chinese. But would you say that indigenous Australians are the majority Caucasian population that we have atm, or the minority Aboriginal peoples that are indigenous to Australia?

I would say that there is a whole load of difference between Aboriginal Australians and British 'white' people.

 

[winifred]

Indigenous Brit my arse so are you of Roman descent that had large parts of its empire & citizens who originated from Africa or are you of Norse origin? Either Viking or Norman or do you perhaps come from a Saxon heritage? Maybe you are part of the human race that originated out of Africa?

Yes, and why not also include the fact that we all originate from Africa. When I referred to indigenous Brits, I was referring to the common perception that this relates to Caucasian people.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Yes, and why not also include the fact that we all originate from Africa. When I referred to indigenous Brits, I was referring to the common perception that this relates to Caucasian people.

You count yourself as one of those that has this 'common perception' then? Or have you not realised that you are perpetuating that perception?

 

[butchersapron]

Yes, and why not also include the fact that we all originate from Africa. When I referred to indigenous Brits, I was referring to the common perception that this relates to Caucasian people.

Not your own perception? Try starting from there when you speak for yourself little sparrow.

 

[MrSki]

I would say that there is a whole load of difference between Aboriginal Australians and British 'white' people.

What in what they have for breakfast?

Can they interbreed? I think that answers the question.