Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Yep. A lot of people are at work and aren't going to be watching any videos.
White civil rights leader has pretended to be black for years
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Yep. A lot of people are at work and aren't going to be watching any videos.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Oh jesus christ almighty, it just got WORSE. Now her secret modelling pics have been released. . .
http://nypost.com/2015/06/16/black-or-white-no-doubt-rachel-dolezals-photos-are-red-hot/
http://nypost.com/2015/06/16/black-or-white-no-doubt-rachel-dolezals-photos-are-red-hot/
8ball
Decolonise colons!
A friend of mine was trying to bring up her first daughter without too many limiting gender-assumptions but by the time she was two years old it was obvious that gender idenitification was a very big part of how she was building her understanding of her place in the world.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yeah, sounds right. It's surely one of the very first things we latch onto.
Thora
Differently Ethical
Seriously? Men have big sciencey brains and can't help raping, it's just in their nature?
8ball
Decolonise colons!
On the other hand, I think I was about 4 or 5 before I was sure I was a boy*, despite the fact that I would have been called a boy many, many times.
If there wasn't diversity in our instinctive identifications there would not need to be the massive societal conditioning there to enforce the binary, though, I reckon.
* I don't recall ever thinking I was a girl, but did not identify with 'boy' either
Sea Star
have you ever explored your dark side?
Ok - i didnt read it through properly before posting. Some things in there are true though - brain size is different and since taking eostrogen my brain will have begun to shrink. Brain size is not an indicator of intelligence.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
oh dear
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
not yet but give it time
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
It's the URBAN WAY.
Sea Star
have you ever explored your dark side?
physical biological differences that impact on behaviour.
Sea Star
have you ever explored your dark side?
its the idiot who is still suffering from jetlag and couldn't find the article she really wanted to post's way
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
no, the urban way is not to read what's put before you but to bluster for post after post before saying 'i haven't read it'. falling at the first hurdle is NOT the urban way.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Bit of a derail, but you've got to be very careful when attributing things like difference in brain size to difference in behaviour. This stuff isn't well enough understood.
Sea Star
have you ever explored your dark side?
don't see any reason to string this out more than necessary.
I never said I was perfect.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i never said you were perfect either.don't see any reason to string this out more than necessary.
I never said I was perfect.
Sea Star
have you ever explored your dark side?
I know - and I'd be the first to admit that. There's still lots of research to be done.
Sea Star
have you ever explored your dark side?
i know
I wonder how much her friend got for flogging those
Treacle Toes
Time
I didn't see the post or the vid. Also, I admit to holding grudges in the sense that I do remember that people piss me off and why. I believe you have disappointed me in the past with your little jokes. So...here we are then.
Sea Star
have you ever explored your dark side?
but why do young children choose to be one or the other even without being led? And why do a small number not pick the gender they're expected to?
MochaSoul
It's being enslaved of your own free will
It's a bit of a shame because you arrived at a point where the debate (here) had already moved on from tackling the spuriousness of comparing the Dolezal's "transracialism" (with all the falseness that the very term entails) with what transgender people go through and goodness it took long enough to make the point of the difference between what people are, what they choose to be and what people are inflicted on with by society and were talking about the effects on black people and those of mixed race, women, for me, in particular. I certainly did not mean to exclude your voice from the debate and I do apologise for not taking more pains to make that clear. It certainly was difficult enough for me to do it from the racial aspect alone without having had to trawl through the net to find and post links to what transgender people were saying about the danger of the comparison.
When I said I was glad the debate was moving on was precisely because, in business as usual fashion, black and mixed race voices and experiences are being drowned by that other debate that is really about understanding what transgender means.
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I don't know. That's a big question that is unlikely to have a simple answer. But politically, I would say that it doesn't matter, that it mustn't matter. That they do so is enough.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I think there is probably a diversity of dispositions as well as diversity in some 'hardware' elements in the brain relating to gender acquisition (gender expectations could be seen as something that is 'acquired' like language, but where certain instincts are primed in order to get the process going).
I think children are 'led' from birth if not before, but even so, you're not dealing with something entirely plastic.
That muddy enough for you?
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
She's also claiming she's a hairdresser, and falls back on that skill to make extra money. Another New York Post article has her claiming her ex husband forced her to make a sex tape.
Is there no end to her fantastic claims?
Is there no end to her fantastic claims?
MochaSoul
It's being enslaved of your own free will
“White people steal what’s yours, and then they sell it back to you.” - Toni Morrison (another great person to interview her)
Why stop at afros, luscious lips and big bums? Why not sell us our own avatars and taglines? We obviously need them.
krink
I'll do it this afternoon
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
maybe not everything she says is a lie
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
i would like to make a short statement.
i would like to make clear, contrary to media speculation, that i can have never had my hair styled, cut, dyed, or in any way treated by Rachel Dolezal, nor have i ever asked for or recieved any nature of advice on either fashion or 'look' from Rachel Dolezal.
i have never met or conversed with Rachel Dolezal, nor anyone from her circle of family of friends. in the interests of full disclosure, i have been to the United States, but i thought they were a bit nuts.
that is the end of my statement, i will not be answering any questions, nor will i be making any further comment on this issue. i would ask that you now respect the privacy of my family and friends at this difficult time.
thank you.
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