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White civil rights leader has pretended to be black for years

One would have thought so but they haven't done it yet... a whole weekend and they haven't found her application forms? They may well have taken her word for it and not by anything in writing.
Your post sent me off to check. Their application form itself doesn't ask you to specify ethnicity. However I'd guess there will be other things she's written or said where she will have misrepresented herself within their meetings/processes.
https://donate.naacp.org/page/-/images/memberform.pdf
 
I can imagine her writing a 'tragic life' memoir over all this.

I saw some scumfront posters' comments on this on fb. Looks like they're having a field day :(
 
They are muddled because they are in a quandary at the moment. Fire her and face the white supremacist media or not fire her and face the black community's music.

Is 'white supremacist media' a reference to Fox News?

I don't think much of the media would make much fuss if she was fired given the lies she has told, but I imagine she is being 'encouraged' to jump before she is pushed.
 
I can imagine her writing a 'tragic life' memoir over all this.

I saw some scumfront posters' comments on this on fb. Looks like they're having a field day :(
Aye, absolutely. I imagine literary agents are already heading for Spokane. Maybe even Hollywood. Who knows, she may sink back into obscurity and depression but, well, even from a couple of days news clips, we know she won't. Oprah awaits.
 
But yes, there are enough direct and documented lies for her to be sacked.

As a matter of interest is her position with the Spokane NAACP a paid one or a voluntary one ? Surely her primary job is as an academic ? Either way there will be process to be observed, as well as the politics of the situation to be worked through. As you say the nature of any lies or misrepresentations and whether they are provable will be important.

Wherever she is on the spectrum between con artist committing deliberate fraud and "bullshitter with benefits", I doubt that these practical issues will be as clear-cut and straightforward as some of the ethical ones.
 
Your post sent me off to check. Their application form itself doesn't ask you to specify ethnicity. However I'd guess there will be other things she's written or said where she will have misrepresented herself within their meetings/processes.
https://donate.naacp.org/page/-/images/memberform.pdf
I have no idea if it's the same there as here but doesn't one usually get some kind of equal opps monitoring form alongside an application, separately?
 
So you're only allowed to do it as long as your make up skills are above a certain standard ? Are you flipping serious :D
I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. Employing cosmetic procedures such as skin whitening products doesn't necessarily mean that a person is trying to be 'white'. Much in the same way that a black person straightening their hair or dyeing it blonde doesn't necessarily mean they're trying to be 'white'.

So, whether this woman was changing her appearance for insincere and/or malicious reasons remains to be seen; but it's incorrect to liken what she did to somebody 'blacking up' as a minstrel or a person 'blacking up' and wearing an afro. Clearly, the latter examples point towards an obvious portrayal of a racial caricature, and are therefore insincere portrayals.
And you're saying you'll be fit to judge who's genuinely transracial and who's ripping the racial piss merely by sight ?
No it's not for me to judge. It's down to the individual who chooses to adopt such an appearance, to decide on whether they're doing it for sincere and honest reasons.
 
I have no idea if it's the same there as here but doesn't one usually get some kind of equal opps monitoring form alongside an application, separately?
Here, everyone is allowed to self-designate wrt ethnicity on those forms or in the census. You're also allowed to refuse to answer the question on race.
 
I have no idea if it's the same there as here but doesn't one usually get some kind of equal opps monitoring form alongside an application, separately?
I was thinking that too, though if it's anything like here that form remains anonymous. The instructions for postal applications were simply to return the single form with payment. I'm sure you're right, they will do equal opps monitoring (though not as in job applications, it'ss just a membership organisation), but maybe at other points.
 
That's only a rumour. :hmm:
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Employing cosmetic procedures such as skin whitening products doesn't necessarily mean that a person is trying to be 'white'...

I find something about it a bit disturbing, myself.

I went to an Indian restaurant a while back and in the loos there were all sorts of sub-continental media stuff and pictures - lots of Bollywood related stuff but also bits and pieces of advertising for Indian products, some of which I was familiar with, but the skin lightening products (some of which were using clever techniques to try to sell them to men, since they are apparently generally considered more a women's product) caught me off guard, what with the way they were lumped in with the breakfast cereals and Amul ghee etc.

It was very up-front, which I didn't expect.
 
I was thinking that too, though if it's anything like here that form remains anonymous. The instructions for postal applications were simply to return the single form with payment. I'm sure you're right, they will do equal opps monitoring (though not as in job applications, it'ss just a membership organisation), but maybe at other points.
Yes, it's not the sort of thing that would be available publicly. In fact, it would be anonymous and specifically not available at all as it's for statistics and there are strict guidelines about managing these forms.
 
I find something about it a bit disturbing, myself.

I went to an Indian restaurant a while back and in the loos there were all sorts of sub-continental media stuff and pictures - lots of Bollywood related stuff but also bits and pieces of advertising for Indian products, some of which I was familiar with, but the skin lightening products (some of which were using clever techniques to try to sell them to men, since they are apparently generally considered more a women's product) caught me off guard, what with the way they were lumped in with the breakfast cereals and Amul ghee etc.

It was very up-front, which I didn't expect.
I've recently been in India and watched quite a bit of telly while limply recovering from some bum issues. I did not see any skin lightening products advertised on the box. I was slightly surprised to see a few L'Oreal (or similar and familiar, v common and popular) shampoos that claimed to cure hair loss for women, but nothing about skin.
 
I find something about it a bit disturbing, myself.

I went to an Indian restaurant a while back and in the loos there were all sorts of sub-continental media stuff and pictures - lots of Bollywood related stuff but also bits and pieces of advertising for Indian products, some of which I was familiar with, but the skin lightening products (some of which were using clever techniques to try to sell them to men, since they are apparently generally considered more a women's product) caught me off guard, what with the way they were lumped in with the breakfast cereals and Amul ghee etc.

It was very up-front, which I didn't expect.

The adverts are absolutely everywhere in India, very often marketed by big western cosmetic brands.
 
I've recently been in India and watched quite a bit of telly while limply recovering from some bum issues. I did not see any skin lightening products advertised on the box. I was slightly surprised to see a few L'Oreal (or similar and familiar, v common and popular) shampoos that claimed to cure hair loss for women, but nothing about skin.

These were all posters and printed ads rather than TV - maybe they don't advertise them on the telly for some reason, like the odd rules we had for a long time about cigarette advertising. :confused:
 
I find something about it a bit disturbing, myself.
Back in the 60s you'd get people grumbling that they couldn't tell what gender long-haired men or short-haired women were. Sometimes it's good to have assumptions challenged. (Not if it involves being lied to for the purpose of obtaining status or material benefit however).
 
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These were all posters and printed ads rather than TV - maybe they don't advertise them on the telly for some reason, like the odd rules we had for a long time about cigarette advertising. :confused:
Fuck knows, mate. Our two shit anecdotes don't add up to much, do they? :thumbs:
 
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