Treacle Toes
Time
It's not unusual though is it? It basically means they lived with others who live off the grid in alternative shelters and using other ways of surviving.
White civil rights leader has pretended to be black for years
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It's not unusual though is it? It basically means they lived with others who live off the grid in alternative shelters and using other ways of surviving.
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
I feel it is a form of blackface she's wearing darker foundation and what's going on with her hair? Is that a wig or a perm?
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
Nah I think she's trying to play to racist stereotypes.
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
Well, to an extent. If I might borrow an analogy from J. Cocker's seminal sociological treatise "Common People"...
"Still you'll never get it right / cos when you're laying in bed at night / watching roaches climb the walls / if you called your dad he could stop it all / yeah."
She might have constructed a black life and identity - and subsequently experienced oppression... but ultimately she has a privilege that black people do not - that if it all gets too much she can stop being black. So it isn't the same at all.
I am interested - though, in whether is is possible to be trans-racial, in the same way as transgender exists. In which case this wouldn't be a choice at all. But I've never heard of it.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Yeah. What sort of work did she do? Do we know much about it yet? It sounds like she might have some problems
but then we've not heard her side yet
Treacle Toes
Time
Well that is a good point. She obviously did it to be more convincing in her lie. However, people with straight hair perm their hair every day and wear darker foundation because they like the 'healthy' glow...are we saying they are blacking up too?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It should be quite easy for proper consistent supporters of intersectional theory to deal with. The original text (which i wish people would read) claimed that black women were rendered invisible due to the concept (legally primarily, but also socially) of discrimination literally being based on the experiences of white women and black men. The article discusses some female GM workers who claimed discrimination but the case was thrown out as they were already covered under the laws previously won by white women and black men - there was nothing to stop them being legally discriminated as black women. The possibility of their own experience being recognised was already enclosed by the restricted legal recognition of experiences of white women (for sexism) and black men (for racism). This is pretty clearly an example of that sort of stuff being played out - and so the position should be no support and critical attack.The politically-correct wiberal in me has no idea how to respond to this story. It's fucking hilarious but it's also not. Am I allowed to find this funny? Or would it be offensive to do so? It is funny though, isn't it?
The bingo wheel of privilege and oppression must be spinning out of control at the moment. Can someone from ProleDem please formulate an official line?
Obligatory meme:
Treacle Toes
Time
Trans-racial.... I don't think I like that term, being mixed and all. She has basically convinced people she is mixed in some way. The one drop rule is a nonsense. The 'political' usage of the term 'Black' is to unite people through their experiences of racism/oppression.
People who come from mixed ethnicity parents are not tranisitioning between anything. Let's have that straight. They are what they are.
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Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
Nah don't think so because ime people that do that are not pretending to be black and make up a whole fake life to go with it...
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
Oh to be a fly on the wall at Goldsmith's debating society right now. Actually scrub that, it'd probably be more mind bending than the original story.
Treacle Toes
Time
What if they speak a bit of patois? Which has basically found it's way firmly into Metropolitan English. What about if they mostly listen to black music? Are we forgetting the insults such as 'wigger' or the use of 'BMW' to men Black man's woman...I remember a childhood friend tell another that when she scraped her hair back into a tight ponytail she looked like a 'Nigger lover'.
Fez909
toilet expert
I agree with you both, but the quote I was replying to said she was pretending to have suffered from racial discrimination, which might not true. She might have experienced discrimination because of her perceived race. It still doesn't excuse it, but on this point, I'm not sure you can say she was pretending. We don't know.
Though I suppose if she's lied about this for so long, then how can you believe anything she says?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I'm increasingly following the story with this expression
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
So part of that is perceived cultural appropriation then I suppose. It's tricky... There is a difference to isn't there from taking on aspects of another culture and constructing a whole fake life, lying about who your parents are, saying you black adoptive brother is your son to wearing a bit of weave and going to a bashment rave...
Treacle Toes
Time
It would be interesting to know what her experiences were and how they changed once she was in 'role'.
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
I'm increasingly following the story with this expression
I think maybe she is unwell.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
That's some seriously pathological attention seeking.
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
Yeah I'd actually be quite interested to hear her side of the story first hand.
Treacle Toes
Time
It's amazing the lengths people will go to for 'validation' and to feel part of something. I'd love to know her motives.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh but sometimes you see good twists in one act plays
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you're angling for a crowdfunded trip to the states.
Treacle Toes
Time
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
validation and to feel part of something i suppose.
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
Would we believe it though?
Not sure I could believe anything she said. The stuff about the fake threats is bonkers and all.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
I'd rather see a Mashed potato, or perhaps a Hucklebuck. That would be a subtle dislocation of the norm.
trashpony
Hag
Maybe she's been doing it for so long, she believes it.
But as someone said upthread, she can choose not to be black any more at any point. So it's not the same as 'real' discrimination that women of colour experience.
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