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What DVD / Video did you watch last night ?

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Good answer! Top marks for "I know you are, so what am I" deployment, and bonus points for completely failing to address any of my arguments.
 
File Not Found said:
For starters: Neither of the two characters are introverted or cold, so I'm not sure where you got that from. Especially Bill Murray: come on. The day he plays a cold introvert is the day I decide to buy a Busted album. I think your inability to tap into the inner worlds of the two protagonists shows a failure of empathy and imagination on your part, rather than any weakness on the part of the film. Things aren't spelt out in Translation: you don't get Bill Murray going "Oh I am so sad and lonely" and Scarlett Johannson replying "Yes so am I. Let's bond whilst drinking and doing karaoke. By the way I fancy you a bit". The film is subtle: that doesn't mean it lacks emotion.
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When scarlett johansen is whining on the phone to her mother that "he's started using hair products and i just don't know who i married any more" i wanted her to die roaring. That didn't happen and the two main characters proceeded to get more annoying until thankfully the dross ended with a truly appaling end scene that made "4 weddings" look good.

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You just don't like her because she's Scarlett Johansson. Anyway, after my rant last night, I've decided that I'm going to respect other people's right to an opinion, but there is no way that any film in this or any other dimensional plane makes the four weddings end scene look good. I think you are being unkind.
 
Also, I think I would be alarmed if my husband started using hair products. I don't know if it would be a deal breaker, but yeah. I would be perturbed.
 
File Not Found said:
You just don't like her because she's Scarlett Johansson..
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not true, i would love her fast then slow. She is achingly beautiful.

but by christ she wound me up in that film



File Not Found said:
Anyway, after my rant last night, I've decided that I'm going to respect other people's right to an opinion,.
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are you new round here??

File Not Found said:
but there is no way that any film in this or any other dimensional plane makes the four weddings end scene look good. I think you are being unkind.
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ok, i'll give you that...... just
 
File Not Found said:
I think you're just being contrary here: deciding you're going not going to like the film because most other people do. Little bit of controversy, folks! I wouldn't be so harsh, but absolutely none of your points stand up to even cursory analysis.

For starters: Neither of the two characters are introverted or cold, so I'm not sure where you got that from. Especially Bill Murray: come on. The day he plays a cold introvert is the day I decide to buy a Busted album. I think your inability to tap into the inner worlds of the two protagonists shows a failure of empathy and imagination on your part, rather than any weakness on the part of the film. Things aren't spelt out in Translation: you don't get Bill Murray going "Oh I am so sad and lonely" and Scarlett Johannson replying "Yes so am I. Let's bond whilst drinking and doing karaoke. By the way I fancy you a bit". The film is subtle: that doesn't mean it lacks emotion.

As for the Japanese being reduced to "a mere plot mechanism" -eh? Couldn't you say that about almost any aspect of any film? Lost in Translation is in any case emphatically NOT a film about Japan, although any person who has spent time in Tokyo will be able to relate to at least some of the experiences depicted in the film. The film is not meant to be an authentic, documentary style examination of Japanese culture: it doesn't pretend to have any great insights. It is at heart a fleeting, ephemeral story about two people meeting and recognising each other for a tiny instant, before drifting back to their seperate lives. If you watched Brief Encounter, would you complain about its depiction of railway station cafeterias?

I think that Lost in Translation, like Virgin Suicides before it, shows that Sofia Coppola has a real gift as a director. If that's partly because of her dad's help and influence, so be it. I think it's a shame that people (especially women, I note) attract criticism when they dare to follow in the footsteps of their parents, but it's not all that unnatural when you think about it.
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I certainly didn't dislike the film because other people like it. My comments form an opinion. Your "cursory analysis" is another opinion. I couldn't tap into the characters because I found them to be rather cold and wooden. Just my opinion. I can see you like the film very much, which is great. And as for Bill Murray's "acting"...It's a smirk, a frown and a sarcastic retort mouthed off in a laconic drawl, from Ghostbusters to LIT.
 
"The Big Lebowski". "Shut the fuck up Donny !" I can't get enough of this film ; I keep finding new things in it.

"Dude , tomorrow's already the 10th" .

"Far out"
 
Hmmm...I haven't seen LIT yet, but I have visited Tokyo a few times and it is a very easy place to become disconnected with - moreso than other big, non-anglo cities (Bangkok for example, has such a huge 'traveller' community that it doesn't feel entirely 'foreign')...it really does actually feel like a whole different culture (and quite a crazy one at that). The Japanese, while unfailingly polite, also tend to be somewhat stand-offish when dealing with gaijin (differs with age and location obv), the language is completely unfamiliar, as is the general visual language displayed in map and symbol iconography. In other words, it can be an exceptionally alienating place, and even if you make an effort to learn some Japanese, it can still be an isolating experience.

On the other hand, it's also a vibrant, loud and colourful city that if you can be arsed to make the effort is incredibly good fun to be in.:D
 
Poi E said:
Just my opinion. I can see you like the film very much, which is great..
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Yes, I did like it very much: I very rarely rant online nowadays so I suppose it must have struck a chord somewhere. But I really need to learn that it is not a good idea to browbeat everyone into liking a film just because I think it rocks: sorry 'bout that. :oops:
 
File Not Found said:
Yes, I did like it very much: I very rarely rant online nowadays so I suppose it must have struck a chord somewhere. But I really need to learn that it is not a good idea to browbeat everyone into liking a film just because I think it rocks: sorry 'bout that. :oops:
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No apologies necessary...keeps me in my place. :)
 
Watched Lost In Translation last night and fell asleep and I have no intention of watching the final bit of the film i missed. Hearing Bill Murray do Karaoke was what sent me to sleep.

She was dressed so obviously dowdy to contrast that 'LA' actress, like it was needed?

Boring, too much hand held camera as well. In a non 'edgy' film it just exposes the film as a film. Its becoming the next zoom, way over used.
 
Sunray said:
Boring, too much hand held camera as well. In a non 'edgy' film it just exposes the film as a film. Its becoming the next zoom, way over used.
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Very true. See it on crap TV cop shows all the time. I wonder if they don't have a Photoshop sorta "shake" function that they put the footage through.
 
I watched welcome to Sarajevo. Really good but quite shocking. Managed to rent it from the library. I'll be watching it again before I have to take it back.
 
8 Mile. Good stuff, nice turn by Mr Mathers. Didn't fall into the usual formula for these types of films.
 
Poi E said:
8 Mile. Good stuff, nice turn by Mr Mathers. Didn't fall into the usual formula for these types of films.
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Flashdance with Freestyling instead of dancing more like. I thought it was incredibly formulaic. IMO
 
Saw Dirty Pretty Things last night - it was good only as far as the subject matter they chose (the murky world of illegal immigrants' employment) and - something that badly needs to be captured in cinema (and TV) - unfortunately it was let down by a terrible script and an inappropriate thriller format. Still, top marks for portraying a hidden world that many of are aware of but are hardly concious of.
 
BootyLove said:
Flashdance with Freestyling instead of dancing more like. I thought it was incredibly formulaic. IMO
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Didn't get the girl, didn't get discovered, no happy ending really. Course it had to have a climax, but it was pretty unrelenting, unlike the Simpson/Bruckheimer fairy stories.
 
BootyLove said:
Flashdance with Freestyling instead of dancing more like. I thought it was incredibly formulaic. IMO
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Of course it was formulaic, all these type of 'escape from w/c hell to artistic existance' stories have been the same since Dick Whittington - it's how well they are done that's important and IMVHO 8 Mile is a good example of the genre.

Altho Brittany Murphey isn't as cute as Jennifer Beales was...

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A couple of days ago, I watched Jackie Chans 80 days around the bloody world, and Scooby Doo 2.

But last nite I was watching a Japanese horror called Ju-On (The Grudge). Slow, but scary in parts and overall ok-to-decent.
 
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